Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage • Hacker News Board

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#11

Post by AntiImperialist » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 11:48 AM UTC

vezycash wrote: post #4

Feels intentional. Last time fb was being probed, the site went down too.

That would be a terrible strategy. Imagine how many people who have only used Facebook messenger between them are switching to another messaging platform now; some of them may like the alternative better.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#12

Post by keyle » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 11:48 AM UTC

vezycash wrote: post #4

Feels intentional. Last time fb was being probed, the site went down too.

Please if you feel like making claims like that, provide context and at least a reference.

Otherwise it sounds like conspiracy theories and ... oh who's this guy at my door in a black suit, he has a shiny ligh...

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#13

Post by cblconfederate » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 11:50 AM UTC

Quick, build a competitor

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#14

Post by fowlie » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 11:50 AM UTC

bitcharmer wrote: post #9

georgeolaru wrote: post #5

Back to SMS.

Why? Is messenger your only option? I personally don't use Messenger but there's still WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, etc.

How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger? How many people can you reach with SMS? Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2365

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#15

Post by LeonM » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 11:53 AM UTC

fowlie wrote: post #14

bitcharmer wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Is messenger your only option? I personally don't use Messenger but there's still WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, etc.

How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger? How many people can you reach with SMS? Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2365

In Europe, Whatsapp is ubiquitous. FB Messenger and iMessage are pretty rare here.

Edit: looks like I was wrong. I'm in the Netherlands. In the Netherlands and our neighbouring countries, Whatsapp is ubiquitous, so I presumed the rest of Europe was the same. I guess this proves that assumption is the mother of all failures.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#16

Post by mmccaff » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 11:55 AM UTC

This red "major outage" status has been reported on their dashboard since at least Dec 2, when an (unrelated to messenger) api bug was introduced that I've been waiting on a fix for.

It has been surprisingly slow to get a fix or an update.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#17

Post by Hansi » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 11:57 AM UTC

LeonM wrote: post #15

fowlie wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger? How many people can you reach with SMS? Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2365

In Europe, Whatsapp is ubiquitous. FB Messenger and iMessage are pretty rare here. Edit: looks like I was wrong. I'm in the Netherlands. In the Netherlands and our neighbouring countries, Whatsapp is ubiquitous, so I presumed the rest of Europe was the same. I guess this proves that assumption is the mother of all failures.

In your country/social group. Messanger has a bigger footprint than WhatsApp in some of my social groups in Europe.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#18

Post by coddle-hark » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 11:57 AM UTC

LeonM wrote: post #15

fowlie wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger? How many people can you reach with SMS? Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2365

In Europe, Whatsapp is ubiquitous. FB Messenger and iMessage are pretty rare here. Edit: looks like I was wrong. I'm in the Netherlands. In the Netherlands and our neighbouring countries, Whatsapp is ubiquitous, so I presumed the rest of Europe was the same. I guess this proves that assumption is the mother of all failures.

Also in Europe: The exact opposite.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#19

Post by pqs » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 11:59 AM UTC

LeonM wrote: post #15

fowlie wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger? How many people can you reach with SMS? Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2365

In Europe, Whatsapp is ubiquitous. FB Messenger and iMessage are pretty rare here. Edit: looks like I was wrong. I'm in the Netherlands. In the Netherlands and our neighbouring countries, Whatsapp is ubiquitous, so I presumed the rest of Europe was the same. I guess this proves that assumption is the mother of all failures.

Europe is very heterogeneous. I'm sure social network usage is very different in Lithuania, Bulgaria, Spain, Norway or the UK.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#20

Post by Gwypaas » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 11:59 AM UTC

LeonM wrote: post #15

fowlie wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger? How many people can you reach with SMS? Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2365

In Europe, Whatsapp is ubiquitous. FB Messenger and iMessage are pretty rare here. Edit: looks like I was wrong. I'm in the Netherlands. In the Netherlands and our neighbouring countries, Whatsapp is ubiquitous, so I presumed the rest of Europe was the same. I guess this proves that assumption is the mother of all failures.

Depends on country, many has messenger as the primary app. In Sweden Whatsapp barely even exists.

https://www.messengerpeople.com/global-messenger-usage-stati...