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Re: Google Music Service

#11

Post by fletchowns » Tue, May 10, 2011, 4:23 PM UTC

smackfu wrote: post #9

I would have thought Google had learned their lesson about doing limited roll-outs: that artificially limiting the network effect kills your product. What worked for GMail hasn't worked anywhere else.

Seemed to do nothing but the opposite when they rolled out gmail.

Re: Google Music Service

#12

Post by bherms » Tue, May 10, 2011, 4:28 PM UTC

Looks like they're finally putting the Simplify Media technology to use. That was my favorite app on iPhone and I used it at work constantly too.

Re: Google Music Service

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Post by smackfu » Tue, May 10, 2011, 4:29 PM UTC

fletchowns wrote: post #11

smackfu wrote: post #9

I would have thought Google had learned their lesson about doing limited roll-outs: that artificially limiting the network effect kills your product. What worked for GMail hasn't worked anywhere else.

Seemed to do nothing but the opposite when they rolled out gmail.

My argument would be that GMail didn't need network effects since it was just email and you could easily use GMail while your friends still used whatever they used to use. Contrast to Wave where limited invites kept your friends from using it which kept you from using it.

Re: Google Music Service

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Post by citricsquid » Tue, May 10, 2011, 4:29 PM UTC

fletchowns wrote: post #11

smackfu wrote: post #9

I would have thought Google had learned their lesson about doing limited roll-outs: that artificially limiting the network effect kills your product. What worked for GMail hasn't worked anywhere else.

Seemed to do nothing but the opposite when they rolled out gmail.

gmail was a product that was superior to anything any one had used before. If they were rolling out gmail today (assuming current gmail exists and is owned by another company) it would not work.

Re: Google Music Service

#15

Post by est » Tue, May 10, 2011, 4:31 PM UTC

Note: music.google.cn is available in China for years now.

Re: Google Music Service

#16

Post by imcdowell » Tue, May 10, 2011, 4:31 PM UTC

thisisblurry wrote: post #6

Here's the help page that might provide some extra information: http://www.google.com/support/music/

The "about" page is also slightly more interesting: http://music.google.com/about/

Re: Google Music Service

#17

Post by bittermang » Tue, May 10, 2011, 4:33 PM UTC

smackfu wrote: post #9

I would have thought Google had learned their lesson about doing limited roll-outs: that artificially limiting the network effect kills your product. What worked for GMail hasn't worked anywhere else.

Well, Gmail was also, you know, useful. Limited availability and invites worked because you were using this useful thing no one else had, and telling them about it made them want it, and then you held the keys to let them in. It lended itself to that kind of natural organic yet viral growth.

Re: Google Music Service

#18

Post by cypherpunks01 » Tue, May 10, 2011, 4:33 PM UTC

est wrote: post #15

Note: music.google.cn is available in China for years now.

Can you explain very briefly what it does? The only part I can read is "Music streaming/download services are not available in your region"

Is it the same product they're rolling out in the US?

Re: Google Music Service

#19

Post by habitualcoder » Tue, May 10, 2011, 4:34 PM UTC

The look and feel somehow looks inconsistent with other google products

Re: Google Music Service

#20

Post by kin » Tue, May 10, 2011, 4:36 PM UTC

smackfu wrote: post #9

I would have thought Google had learned their lesson about doing limited roll-outs: that artificially limiting the network effect kills your product. What worked for GMail hasn't worked anywhere else.

vs the full roll out that was Google Buzz? Limited roll outs are common for Betas. Had Buzz been a limited roll out they would have recognized its faults much earlier and there would have been less privacy issues.