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Re: Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Post by varbhat » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 10:04 AM UTC

half-kh-hacker wrote: post #9

varbhat wrote: post #4

I don't understand how using Radicle will free my code as they say in the site. So,how is using Radicle better than: 1. main repo on https://github.com 2. mirror repo on https://repo.or.cz 3. mirror repo on https://codeberg.org 4. local backup on my device and hard-disk. peer-to-peer is beautiful concept but note that git is already distributed VCS. you can have many remotes and mirrors. Just that p2p is not necessar…

If your main repo lives on GitHub, your (primary) issue tracking is tied to GitHub.

Actually, it's not fault of git. Workflow of git takes place through email and patches.

But,github wanted to make this process easier for the people,hence they included issues,fork and PR model. It was easily done with intuitive interface without necessity of email for workflow, but if you have asked me, i would have issues,wiki,etc. integrated within repo just like Fossil VCS.

p2p is cool but not solution to this . gitea/gitlab/etc. already provide importing of issues with repos and if not,they must provide that feature.

Re: Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Post by YetAnotherNick » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 10:06 AM UTC

adsweedler wrote: post #6

"Work securely offline" Is... is that a problem with GitHub that stops you from doing that?

You need internet for pull and push. I think(hoping) that they meant within a LAN it could work without internet.

Re: Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Post by phoe-krk » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 10:06 AM UTC

varbhat wrote: post #11

half-kh-hacker wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If your main repo lives on GitHub, your (primary) issue tracking is tied to GitHub.

Actually, it's not fault of git. Workflow of git takes place through email and patches. But,github wanted to make this process easier for the people,hence they included issues,fork and PR model. It was easily done with intuitive interface without necessity of email for workflow, but if you have asked me, i would have issues,wiki,etc. integrated within repo just like Fossil VCS. p2p is cool but not solution to this .…

> Actually, it's not fault of git. Workflow of git takes place through email and patches.

This invokes the "it's not a bug, it's a feature" mechanism. E.g. Fossil has no problem integrating issues, merge requests, and wiki pages inside its repositories.

Re: Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Post by xwvvvvwx » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 10:12 AM UTC

varbhat wrote: post #11

half-kh-hacker wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If your main repo lives on GitHub, your (primary) issue tracking is tied to GitHub.

Actually, it's not fault of git. Workflow of git takes place through email and patches. But,github wanted to make this process easier for the people,hence they included issues,fork and PR model. It was easily done with intuitive interface without necessity of email for workflow, but if you have asked me, i would have issues,wiki,etc. integrated within repo just like Fossil VCS. p2p is cool but not solution to this .…

> if you have asked me, i would have issues,wiki,etc. integrated within repo just like Fossil VCS.

This is exactly what radicle does.

Re: Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Post by GuB-42 » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 10:17 AM UTC

varbhat wrote: post #4

I don't understand how using Radicle will free my code as they say in the site. So,how is using Radicle better than: 1. main repo on https://github.com 2. mirror repo on https://repo.or.cz 3. mirror repo on https://codeberg.org 4. local backup on my device and hard-disk. peer-to-peer is beautiful concept but note that git is already distributed VCS. you can have many remotes and mirrors. Just that p2p is not necessar…

GitHub is more than just a git host.

It has an issue tracker, pull request manager, manages releases and users,... All this cannot be replicated with a simple "git clone".

What Radicle seems to do is to offer some sort of social network on top of git. The novelty here is not the decentralized nature of git, in fact it is what radicle relies on to make its social network decentralized.

Re: Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Post by cloudhead » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 10:18 AM UTC

dijit wrote: post #2

Not to be confused with Radicale; an Open-Source CalDAV and CardDAV Server https://radicale.org/3.0.html

The shameless plug we all needed

Re: Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Post by nnn1234 » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 10:19 AM UTC

like other folks who have said this before, the question is who is this for and what is it that github doesnt provide but radicle does?

I can have git installed on my device, work locally and instead of pointing to github, have a scuttlebutt like updates for PRs

Question is who wants this? and what does this do to open source code?

Re: Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Post by varbhat » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 10:20 AM UTC

phoe-krk wrote: post #13

varbhat wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, it's not fault of git. Workflow of git takes place through email and patches. But,github wanted to make this process easier for the people,hence they included issues,fork and PR model. It was easily done with intuitive interface without necessity of email for workflow, but if you have asked me, i would have issues,wiki,etc. integrated within repo just like Fossil VCS. p2p is cool but not solution to this .…

> Actually, it's not fault of git. Workflow of git takes place through email and patches. This invokes the "it's not a bug, it's a feature" mechanism. E.g. Fossil has no problem integrating issues, merge requests, and wiki pages inside its repositories.

Actually, Gitlab and Gitea allows mirror of Github repos with Issues/wiki/PR etc. So, having issues in Github is not at all problem.

I just gave you example of Fossil VCS which has issues,PR,etc. baked into VCS itself.

Actually,what Radicle is doing is to extend git with p2p and not inventing new VCS with issues,etc. baked in.

What i am telling is that p2p doesn't solve this unclear problem and p2p isn't much beneficial to git.

And will there be enough peers to guarantee availability of repo ?

Re: Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Post by rsa25519 » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 10:20 AM UTC

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #12

adsweedler wrote: post #6

"Work securely offline" Is... is that a problem with GitHub that stops you from doing that?

You need internet for pull and push. I think(hoping) that they meant within a LAN it could work without internet.

(I'm not shooting the messenger here) If so, that would mean pushing/pulling within the LAN only... which Git supports already

Re: Radicle: A peer-to-peer alternative to GitHub

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Post by a-dub » Sat, Dec 05, 2020, 10:21 AM UTC

i think this is technically interesting, but i'm curious in practice what it gives project maintainers over hosting their own gitlab instance or similar...