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Ask HN: 1Password vs. LastPass vs. Bitwarden for teams ?

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Re: Ask HN: 1Password vs. LastPass vs. Bitwarden for teams ?

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Bitwarden is open source and you can self host it if I'm not mistaken. Former LastPass user here.

I have bitwarden self hosted. I'm using bitwarden_rs and it's really really good.

Have you had any trouble with the extension unlocking the vault? I had to switch back to the standard bitwarden, but I'd love to switch back.

Re: Ask HN: 1Password vs. LastPass vs. Bitwarden for teams ?

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I've used 1pass for teams and family, and LastPass and I would choose 1password hands down every time. My experience with LastPass has been miserable, from functionality to UX it's just a bad product in my opinion. I do wish the Windows client for 1pass was a little more polished, but it does have all of the functionality I expect and the UX is generally the same as macOS it's just a little rougher around the edges.

Re: Ask HN: 1Password vs. LastPass vs. Bitwarden for teams ?

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I've been using 1Password for the last 4 years, both with a family account and a work account.

It works perfectly for team management, since you can categorize passwords by vaults and give individual members. or teams, access to specific vaults. You can give guests outside your organization access as well. Beyond passwords, you can also share company cards, credential files, and 2FA tokens.

In addition, 1Password does a great job of letting you know when you should rotate your passwords, when you've re-used passwords, and when any password you've used has been leaked (in conjunction with https://www.haveibeenpwned.com). This helps ensure better security practices across the team.

Only downsides I've come across: - Granular permissions are really hard. For example, at my last job, we had vaults per client we worked with. However, not everyone that works on that client needs access to all of those passwords. The only way around this was to make/manage hundreds of vaults for Client+Function variants. - There's no way to guarantee security of passwords stored in someone's personal vault. - Users can create a vault and remove owners/admins from it (unless this has changed).

Re: Ask HN: 1Password vs. LastPass vs. Bitwarden for teams ?

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I've been using 1Password for the last 4 years, both with a family account and a work account. It works perfectly for team management, since you can categorize passwords by vaults and give individual members. or teams, access to specific vaults. You can give guests outside your organization access as well. Beyond passwords, you can also share company cards, credential files, and 2FA tokens. In addition, 1Password doe…

Can you elaborate on "There's no way to guarantee security of passwords stored in someone's personal vault"?

Re: Ask HN: 1Password vs. LastPass vs. Bitwarden for teams ?

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All three of these expose your entire password database to system memory every time you decrypt a single secret giving you no reasonable defense against malware.

LastPass, 1pass, BitWarden, and most other password managers doubled down on good UX, but the security is pretty terrible. They help users avoid using the same password for every site, granted, but is that really good enough?

Consider that every time you go to login to Twitter you also expose say your AWS root password or any TOTP backups, etc.

Compare to Mooltipass, Trezor Password Manager, or Password Store + Yubikey which all decrypt a single password at a time with a physical touch on an external device.

If an adversary has malware on your system and wants to dump 100 passwords they must get you to physically consent 100 times on an external device.

Presumably you would notice.

Today I only recommend hardware password managers. Pay for the hardware once and there is no monthly fee or any such nonsense, as the client software is all local and open source. Also no company gets the list of services you use and analytics of how often you use them for added privacy.

All three of these alternatives let you backup your encrypted password database to a git repo or cloud storage of your choice.

For technical teams where sharing is needed I tend to setup Password Store which lets us set up per folder sharing permissions and the database is just a shared git repo.

There are multiple cli and gui front ends available for mobile and desktop.

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