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Hire people who give a shit

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Re: Hire people who give a shit

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post #5

1-why would anyone (other than you) give a shit about your company? 2-intellectual work does not translate to how many hours you put in.

TL;DR -- people won't give a shit about your company, but they might give a shit about you.

Step 1. Create jobs that enable people to have a quality life.

Step 2. Ensure people feel like they're building a career they can take beyond your company.

Step 3. Give them reasons to stay, so they feel like working for you is the best option available to them.

Re: Hire people who give a shit

#12
Yikes. I would never work for that person after reading that article.

“I started a company and I’m totally wild about it. It is my life. If it is not your life too then you don’t belong here.”

Founders are supposed to be obsessed with their company. (Though I question that too.) But demanding everyone else at the company be just as obsessed is doomed to hire children and sycophants and drive off professionals who have seen this movie before.

Re: Hire people who give a shit

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post #4

I agree with the gist of hiring people that care about their craft, but asking them to care about the company is harder. That really requires some sort of reciprocal "company cares about you" , and that's hard to guarantee. Especially when you're hiring the generation that saw their parents lose out on the things like pensions vs 401k, layoffs as regular events, etc.

And companies who dare asking your consent to collect, retain, and share (with 3rd parties they like) everything about you from your teams chat to gene data.

Re: Hire people who give a shit

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post #6

> If someone is applying to Scale and has never been deeply obsessed about something before, then it’s a bad bet to think Scale will be the first. So you mean that you're looking for unbalanced people? I don't get how being obsessed about a product equates to long term success for an employee in your company. To me it's more like a recipe for burnout. What's the employee turnover at Scale?

/sarcasm on

Does that work if the candidate is obsessed not by something but by someone?

Re: Hire people who give a shit

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And the inverse: have a business which is worthy of shit-giving.

It’s extremely hard to give a shit about Yet Another Middleware CRUD CRM Layer Corp.

There’s a fine balancing point between working a bullshit job (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs) and recognizing that no, the B-Ark (https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Golgafrinchan_Ark_Fleet_... ) is a bad idea, we really do need telephone handset sanitizers.

Don’t fall for the trap that says that only the sexiest sounding jobs are OK—for one, what that means varies by the talents and interests and skills of the workforce. For another, it’s going to bias you towards treating, e.g., janitors as subhuman, and that way is the path to a very bad place.

What makes work satisfying is, to a large but not total extent, a function of the mutual respect the employer and employee have for the humanity of the employee. Some jobs are just bullshit. Some aren’t. All jobs have a certain amount of toil.

You’ll get people who give a shit about the work when your work isn’t bullshit, and about the job when the culture at work respects them.

Re: Hire people who give a shit

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“Giving a shit” seems to be entirely focused on whether they are putting in hours. I notice that nowhere in the 6 questions is there anything that would assess what was achieved.

So if I went to Scale, sat around for 12 hours and spent 7 on Hacker News, I would achieve as much as the Google employee but somehow be differentiated according to Scale.

Re: Hire people who give a shit

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Great advice, but I'd add one thing - the company itself, the leadership, etc. also has to give a shit at the same level as its people.

These Googlers that work 11-4 probably either used to give a shit, or still give a shit, but when you care deeply about your work and the company gets in your way or doesn't share your passion, it's an awful and demoralizing place to be.

So quit, you say. But you can't because you give a shit and you really, really want the company to succeed and do great things.

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