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Re: M1 Macs Review

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Post by vishnugupta »

rimliu wrote: post #7
cjrp wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a laptop's performance is on a par with a desktop's, and the fan's aren't going crazy, I'd call that a big win! My 2018 MB Pro has the fans running most of the time, and even then sometimes throttles back the CPU.

Original comment mentions MB Air, Air has no fans (now that sounds funny :)

Of all the things unveiled during the launch event no-fan thing completely blew me away. That, I was not prepared for!

I now wonder, does that mean that MB Air has no moving parts inside it at all?

Re: M1 Macs Review

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Post by hart_russell »

I received an M1 mini 2 days ago. I noticed the Steam client seems to be a bit laggy in UI responsiveness, but besides that I have no complaints. I got it for use as a server, so I was a bit dismayed to hear that M1 Docker support has hit a roadblock, but hopeful that they figure it out soon.

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Post by shmoogy »

snazz wrote: post #8
cjrp wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a laptop's performance is on a par with a desktop's, and the fan's aren't going crazy, I'd call that a big win! My 2018 MB Pro has the fans running most of the time, and even then sometimes throttles back the CPU.

The MacBook Air that GP mentioned doesn't even have a fan! That's certainly a nice benefit.

I really want the air for when I work outside in the summer. I worked from an iPad quite often with the magic keyboard, and it started throttling and sometimes overheated to the point of failure while outside in the sun.

It's too cold in Chicago to test, but I would love to see if the MacBook Air can work while outside in direct hot sun - it's the only reason I'm considering the MBP.

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Post by rimliu »

mikece wrote: post #10

Speed is still relative. Yes the benchmark numbers for the M1 are impressive, but I am curious to see non-benchmark, real-world workloads compared. I'm reminded of a YouTube video (link below) in which the comparison was made between an $11,000 Mac Pro and a PC kit that also cost $11,000. In this case the PC was rocking a Ryzen chip with 32 (or was it 64?) cores and smoked the Mac Pro on every benchmark. But when com…

Well, see this e.g.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxH3RabNWfE

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Post by OberstKrueger »

mikece wrote: post #10

Speed is still relative. Yes the benchmark numbers for the M1 are impressive, but I am curious to see non-benchmark, real-world workloads compared. I'm reminded of a YouTube video (link below) in which the comparison was made between an $11,000 Mac Pro and a PC kit that also cost $11,000. In this case the PC was rocking a Ryzen chip with 32 (or was it 64?) cores and smoked the Mac Pro on every benchmark. But when com…

TechCrunch's review includes a compile of WebKit, Final Cut export, as well as some traditional benchmarks. It includes performance and battery impact of the tasks.

https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/17/yeah-apples-m1-macbook-pro...

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Post by yhersk0vitz »

I feel like this may the first time that Macbooks might actually be worth their premium from a purely hardware perspective.

Before people jump on this, I mean that for example the previous Intel MB Pro with i5 would cost like $1,500, which is far more than almost any windows laptop running the same specs.

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Post by ojosilva »

Here's looking at getting one. But I wonder what's the currently compatibility status of the dev stack: node, git, go, java, nginx, databases (pg, mongo, maria...), editors (macvim, vscode...), iTerm, et al. And the brew family of installs, which was covered as part of yesterday's thread [1].

Macos ships with some interpreters pre-installed as part of BigSur, including Ruby, Python and Perl. And most source distributions should just compile, but my guess is that it will be buggy given the arch + os combination is novel.

Firefox (beta) and Chrome/Chromium apparently are available too.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25132217

Re: M1 Macs Review

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Post by xuki »

vishnugupta wrote: post #11
rimliu wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Original comment mentions MB Air, Air has no fans (now that sounds funny :)

Of all the things unveiled during the launch event no-fan thing completely blew me away. That, I was not prepared for! I now wonder, does that mean that MB Air has no moving parts inside it at all?

Yes, like an iPhone or iPad.

Re: M1 Macs Review

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Post by mpweiher »

mikece wrote: post #10

Speed is still relative. Yes the benchmark numbers for the M1 are impressive, but I am curious to see non-benchmark, real-world workloads compared. I'm reminded of a YouTube video (link below) in which the comparison was made between an $11,000 Mac Pro and a PC kit that also cost $11,000. In this case the PC was rocking a Ryzen chip with 32 (or was it 64?) cores and smoked the Mac Pro on every benchmark. But when com…

WebKit compile / speed / power:

https://images.macrumors.com/t/xjpsPEkXCCuNsW90kwPvVl0xfC0=/...

Percent battery remaining after compiling WebKit. 16" MacBookPro 2019: 61%, 13" MacBook Pro: 24%. M1 mini: 91%, M1 Air: 91%.

From: https://www.macrumors.com/2020/11/17/apple-silicon-m1-compil...

Re: M1 Macs Review

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Post by sz4kerto »

mikece wrote: post #10

Speed is still relative. Yes the benchmark numbers for the M1 are impressive, but I am curious to see non-benchmark, real-world workloads compared. I'm reminded of a YouTube video (link below) in which the comparison was made between an $11,000 Mac Pro and a PC kit that also cost $11,000. In this case the PC was rocking a Ryzen chip with 32 (or was it 64?) cores and smoked the Mac Pro on every benchmark. But when com…

SPEC benchmarks are your friend.

> non-benchmark, real-world workloads compared

Many (most) benchmarks are designed to reflect real-world workloads.

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