Nice...I bet the evil RIAA didn't think only about the two tests when they reported the project....
Actually that's all they complained about.
YouTube-dl's repository has been restored
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Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored
#12Excellent. Looks like they've removed the tests for RIAA member videos as the only change, which I assume helped get this restored: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/commit/1fb034d029c8b7...
Fantastic compromise.
Arguing that you have a right to break RIAA DRM is much harder that taking it out entirely.
I use this for downloading national archive videos off youtube, I'm very happy about this news
Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored
#13So it seems that the dealbreaker was that one of tests that downloaded copyrighted material (see the last commit [1]). Seems like a reasonable thing to not do, and just replace those tests with just random cat videos. [1] https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/commit/1fb034d029c8b7...
It doesn't work like that since certain videos use obfuscation methods that random cat videos don't.
I was under the impression that those obfuscation methods were exclusive to certain YouTube partners, including the RIAA members. If youtube-dl stopped supporting that method, it would still be a useful tool for the bulk of its use cases and the RIAA would no longer have any leg to stand on since it'd no longer be able to download their members' videos.
Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored
#14Great, now they can import the issues to a GitLab/Gitea instance hosted by the same Germans who refused to ever take down youtube-dl.org, and a few other places for redundancy, and not have to go through all this excess stress again.
I have trouble believing gitlab would just ignore a DMCA takedown request? This is what people believe? This is something gitlab has said?
Actually, I guess I'm not sure of the consequences to a company of ignoring DMCA takedown requests (whether or not they are US companies; but Gitlab is now btw), but I assume they are not good, or why do companies bother complying? Rather than assume, I should look into it.
But yes, redundancy for sure.
Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored
#15Excellent. Looks like they've removed the tests for RIAA member videos as the only change, which I assume helped get this restored: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/commit/1fb034d029c8b7...
And not even purged from the repo, it's still in the history if needed. Seems like the copyright holders making a big fuss over nothing really.
Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored
#16Was a counter-notice filed, or did github restore it without one, once the tests were removed?
Because my understanding was that certain decryption/anti-drm functions were also in the scope of the takedown request, not just the tests.
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#17How long before we start the discussion about exporting issues/comments and preparing for another event like this? :)
Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored
#18The amount of publicity this generated for youtube-dl is astounding... I would love for this to be a ”the plan to get rid of youtube-dl backfired badly for RIAA” ending. But I guess RIAA is reviled enough already so nothing they do really matters. So I suppose the hope is that some political will to change the laws around this arises from it.
Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored
#19Great, now they can import the issues to a GitLab/Gitea instance hosted by the same Germans who refused to ever take down youtube-dl.org, and a few other places for redundancy, and not have to go through all this excess stress again.
I have trouble believing gitlab would just ignore a DMCA takedown request? This is what people believe? This is something gitlab has said? Actually, I guess I'm not sure of the consequences to a company of ignoring DMCA takedown requests (whether or not they are US companies; but Gitlab is now btw), but I assume they are not good, or why do companies bother complying? Rather than assume, I should look into it. But ye…
gitlab.com? No. https://youtube-dl.org/ ’s host? That’s almost exactly what they did. (Edit: here’s my comment on a story that details their response somewhat: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24909982).
Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored
#20So it seems that the dealbreaker was that one of tests that downloaded copyrighted material (see the last commit [1]). Seems like a reasonable thing to not do, and just replace those tests with just random cat videos. [1] https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/commit/1fb034d029c8b7...
It doesn't work like that since certain videos use obfuscation methods that random cat videos don't.
I suppose a developer that wants to make sure that it works with certain DRM schemes can add cases of their own, locally, without pushing the change.