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Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed by holiday gatherings

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Re: Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed by holiday gatherings

#11
By sheer coincidence I’ve been reading World War Z and it’s amazing how in the real world we’re making the same mistakes that countries in the book made against the zombies. Of course the situation is entirely different, but it’s interesting.

Why doesn’t the government actually just enforce rules? So many lockdowns, mandates and laws but so little enforcement, or the penalty is not commensurate with the risk. What’s the point?

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It also demonstrates why the "personal choice" stuff is BS here. I see a lot of folks going "why are you worried if you're following the rules yourself?", and yet... > None of the victims who lost their lives had attended the party.

The “personal choice” stuff was always BS even on the face of it. You can probably find some “libertarians” who will argue for removing all restaurant food safety regulations, for example, but I’m pretty sure even they are okay with banning drunk driving on shared roads.

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post #5

It also demonstrates why the "personal choice" stuff is BS here. I see a lot of folks going "why are you worried if you're following the rules yourself?", and yet... > None of the victims who lost their lives had attended the party.

Honestly, I would be okay with someone being tried for murder over this shit. Isn't the death penalty supposed to be a deterrence?

It's very clearly not murder; that'd set really bad precedents. You might be able to pull off something like involuntary manslaughter, but I tend to doubt it.

Re: Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed by holiday gatherings

#14
When will the daily Covid fear stories on Hacker News end?

What is there to discuss here? Is there anything to discuss?

What good will come of this submission?

Why does Hacker News continue to have Covid fear stories on the front page every day?

Re: Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed by holiday gatherings

#15
I wonder if we could implement some sort of cap and trade system to make everyone happy?

Everyone could be rationed a certain number of gatherings per month and then each person would be free to choose how to use them. They could use one to see family during the holidays, they could go to a protest, go to a wedding, celebrate in the street, go to a movie, etc.

We could even track them as discrete tokens, or "social credits" using blockchain technology. This would allow contact tracing software to be able to determine the "cost" of an event based on how many people were exposed and then withdraw the appropriate number of credits from the participants.

In a system like this, people who don't go anywhere or see anyone would be able to redeem their excess social credits for things XBoxes or VR headsets.

Re: Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed by holiday gatherings

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post #9

"Coming from both the left and right, and around the world, we have devoted our careers to protecting people. Current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health. The results (to name a few) include lower childhood vaccination rates, worsening cardiovascular disease outcomes, fewer cancer screenings and deteriorating mental health – leading to greater excess mortality in y…

I really lament that HackerNews has become just another outlet for political propaganda and manipulation. It didn't used to be this bad, but now there's large scale brigading of the top comment sections just like at reddit. I don't know what the solution is, but the reddit/HackerNews model of discussion definitely has its downsides in the face of malicious actors.

Re: Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed by holiday gatherings

#19
post #3

Epidemiologists from Stanford, Oxford and Harvard demand to immediately stop the devastating measures. http://gbdeclaration.org/

That's faker than a 3 dollar bill. Many, many, of the "signatures" have been proven to be people that don't even exist. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-... https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/27/facebook-p...

Are you trying to say the authors don’t exist because some troll entered a fake name on their website?

Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations.

Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases.

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.

Re: Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed by holiday gatherings

#20
What are HNers planning to do for the holidays? We’re seriously considering not seeing anyone, not even parents, even though my SO has had COVID already (she works at a hospital and contracted it from COVID patients).

Stories like this are the main reason. Even if no one at the party gets very ill, the chance of further spreading it to others seriously scares me.

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