MacBook Pro 13-inch with M1 • Hacker News Board

Re: MacBook Pro 13-inch with M1

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Post by Ayesh » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 6:57 PM UTC

cyrusmg wrote: post #7

Are there any independent performance comparisons for x86 apps ? (I guess not yet, but still worth to ask here)

There were some geekbench results posted online, that ranged single core performance from ~600-1100, compared to the ~1150 in last Intel MacBook Pro.

Re: MacBook Pro 13-inch with M1

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Post by Ayesh » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 6:57 PM UTC

cube2222 wrote: post #5

Ayesh wrote: post #2

Summary: - 8 cores, 16 core neural engine. - GPU, RAM, Secure enclave and CPU integrated. - 5.x graphics performance. - 10h more battery life. - Thunderbolt/USB 4. Available from today, starts shipping next week. Price starts at $1299, or $1199 for education. Edit: 8GB RAM + 256GB SSD: $1299, 16GB RAM + 512GB SSD: 1499.

With 8GB and 16GB options available.

Thank you, I updated the comment.

Re: MacBook Pro 13-inch with M1

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Post by k0stas » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 6:58 PM UTC

lord_sudo wrote: post #6

Why are they limited to 16gb? Is this related to the arm chip design?

It seems to be due to the fact they are integrating the DRAM into the package. There is only room for two 8GB DIMMs:

https://www.apple.com/v/mac/m1/a/images/overview/chip__fffqz...

Re: MacBook Pro 13-inch with M1

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Post by vetinari » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 6:58 PM UTC

Ayesh wrote: post #2

Summary: - 8 cores, 16 core neural engine. - GPU, RAM, Secure enclave and CPU integrated. - 5.x graphics performance. - 10h more battery life. - Thunderbolt/USB 4. Available from today, starts shipping next week. Price starts at $1299, or $1199 for education. Edit: 8GB RAM + 256GB SSD: $1299, 16GB RAM + 512GB SSD: 1499.

> - 8 cores,

It is big.LITTLE, so 4 fast + 4 slow cores.

Re: MacBook Pro 13-inch with M1

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Post by post_break » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 6:59 PM UTC

Intel MacBook Pro gets 4 ports, this only has two which is odd and annoying.

Re: MacBook Pro 13-inch with M1

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Post by sschueller » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 7:00 PM UTC

Is the "Pro" still appropriate?

Re: MacBook Pro 13-inch with M1

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Post by post_break » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 7:01 PM UTC

spuz wrote: post #9

The 2.8x faster CPU claim is based on the following fine print: > Testing conducted by Apple in October 2020 using preproduction 13-inch MacBook Pro systems with Apple M1 chip, as well as production 1.7GHz quad-core Intel Core i7-based 13-inch MacBook Pro systems, all configured with 16GB RAM and 2TB SSD. Open source project built with prerelease Xcode 12.2 with Apple Clang 12.0.0, Ninja 1.10.0.git, and CMake 3.16.5.…

Here is the 1.7ghz https://everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook...

Re: MacBook Pro 13-inch with M1

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Post by cs02rm0 » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 7:03 PM UTC

andr wrote: post #4

The basic configuration still ships with 8GB of RAM. 16GB is $200 extra. I had an 8GB MacBook Pro in 2013. It wasn't enough then, it's absolutely inadequate now.

Yep, I had a 13" 16GB MBP in 2013. These don't seem very enticing.

Re: MacBook Pro 13-inch with M1

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Post by AnonHP » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 7:03 PM UTC

Ayesh wrote: post #2

Summary: - 8 cores, 16 core neural engine. - GPU, RAM, Secure enclave and CPU integrated. - 5.x graphics performance. - 10h more battery life. - Thunderbolt/USB 4. Available from today, starts shipping next week. Price starts at $1299, or $1199 for education. Edit: 8GB RAM + 256GB SSD: $1299, 16GB RAM + 512GB SSD: 1499.

Seriously, it should be a crime to sell machines with 256GB SSD in 2020. All these starting prices look low, but those low end configurations will be a drag because of the RAM and storage decisions.

Re: MacBook Pro 13-inch with M1

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Post by crazygringo » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 7:03 PM UTC

andr wrote: post #4

The basic configuration still ships with 8GB of RAM. 16GB is $200 extra. I had an 8GB MacBook Pro in 2013. It wasn't enough then, it's absolutely inadequate now.

If you're not running VM's or opening hundreds of tabs in Chrome it's perfectly fine for everyday tasks.

I'm using my 2016 MBP with 8 GB and have never had a problem except when trying to run multiple VM's.

So 8 GB doesn't seem unreasonable as a minimum. You can upgrade if you need the extra, but a large number of buyers don't need it and prefer a cheaper base price.