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Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Post by jlgaddis »

freedomben wrote: post #6
azamba wrote: post #2

Does anyone use Mutt with gmail or alikes today? Is it worth it? Mutt was my preferred email client back in 2000-2004. But gave it up for Gmail web interface.

I'm considering it now that my nostalgia is flaring up. One thing that was a pain point in the past was offline use. If your mail provider is IMAP only then you need to hack stuff together to use offline. As a paranoid freak I prefer to have offline copies of everything.

It's pretty easy to set up OfflineIMAP or isync or similar to sync a local copy of your mail (in fact, this is a great way to back up your IMAP mailboxes whether you use mutt or not!).

Then you just point mutt at the local copy instead of the IMAP server and it doesn't matter if you're online or offline.

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Post by pge »

freedomben wrote: post #6
azamba wrote: post #2

Does anyone use Mutt with gmail or alikes today? Is it worth it? Mutt was my preferred email client back in 2000-2004. But gave it up for Gmail web interface.

I'm considering it now that my nostalgia is flaring up. One thing that was a pain point in the past was offline use. If your mail provider is IMAP only then you need to hack stuff together to use offline. As a paranoid freak I prefer to have offline copies of everything.

offlineimap works well with mutt to have everything accessible offline

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Post by JoshTriplett »

> Automatic reconnect to IMAP on error

Really looking forward to this. This was the one notable issue I had with mutt: if you lose your connection, it would forget which mails you marked as read, deleted, etc.

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Post by freedomben »

jlgaddis wrote: post #11
freedomben wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm considering it now that my nostalgia is flaring up. One thing that was a pain point in the past was offline use. If your mail provider is IMAP only then you need to hack stuff together to use offline. As a paranoid freak I prefer to have offline copies of everything.

It's pretty easy to set up OfflineIMAP or isync or similar to sync a local copy of your mail (in fact, this is a great way to back up your IMAP mailboxes whether you use mutt or not!). Then you just point mutt at the local copy instead of the IMAP server and it doesn't matter if you're online or offline.

I don't remember if OfflineIMAP was the tool I tried or not, but at the time it was quite challenging. I always suspected that rate limiting on the mail server was blowing up the download tool, but I couldn't figure it out. This was a fair number of years ago though, so things are hopefully better now.

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Post by gray_-_wolf »

neolog wrote: post #17
mseidl wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I switched to neomutt a while ago.

How is it?

Fine. With mutt I would need bunch of patches anyway, here they come from the upstream.

They do have a bit of regressions from time to time, but they are fairly quick to respond with workarounds and fix it.

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Post by nextos »

freedomben wrote: post #4

So mutt is still receiving releases? That's neat. I may have to revisit and see what's new in 2.0. I went through a CLI-only phase where I didn't use a desktop environment. My "DE" was just tmux in a pseudo-terminal. The main reason I went back to a graphical workstation was a need for G Suite and Slack's horrible support for Weechat. Mutt was a critical member of the toolkit and I have fond memories of hyper product…

Mutt, plus a notmuch backend, has excellent search capabilities. Operators meet or exceed what Gmail offers both in terms of speed and features.

Neomutt probably has better integration. I've never tried because I switched to the Emacs Notmuch MUA package.

I find the integration of Emacs packages much better than ncurses CLIs which, unlike non-interactive Unix applications, tend to compose badly. They are little silos.

Mutt has an excellent UI design, though. Once learnt, it's really fast to use.

Re: Mutt 2.0 Release Notes

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Post by csomar »

freedomben wrote: post #4

So mutt is still receiving releases? That's neat. I may have to revisit and see what's new in 2.0. I went through a CLI-only phase where I didn't use a desktop environment. My "DE" was just tmux in a pseudo-terminal. The main reason I went back to a graphical workstation was a need for G Suite and Slack's horrible support for Weechat. Mutt was a critical member of the toolkit and I have fond memories of hyper product…

> The main reason I went back to a graphical workstation was a need for G Suite and Slack's horrible support for Weechat.

These are web apps? You should be able to have CLI-work style and still browse the web. Use something like Vimium for Firefox and a WM.

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