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Facebook Shuts Down ‘Stop the Steal’ Group

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Re: Facebook Shuts Down ‘Stop the Steal’ Group

#11

Post by DamnYuppie »

Traster wrote: post #9
cybert00th wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you look closely you'll find that group is trying to draw attention to election irregularities. Facebook is not an arbiter of truth, it's a platform for staying in contact with others. And as such shouldn't have an opinion either way. Once it steps outside of that role it's on a hiding to nothing as all sides will find fault - as they are.

Yes and QAnon claims to #SaveTheChildren. It doesn't mean they're actually making good faith efforts. Specifically, facebook mentions calls to violence.

Has Facebook shut down BLM or Antifa, both of which have been SHOWN to be violent?

Re: Facebook Shuts Down ‘Stop the Steal’ Group

#13

Post by svaha1728 »

cybert00th wrote: post #5
mmastrac wrote: post #2

"On Thursday afternoon, Facebook banned the group on the basis of attempting to delegitimize the election process, and its role in potentially instigating physical violence." No shit. Democracy is hanging by a thread in the US right now, with a president trying to shut down the democratic count and vote counters fearing for their life from crazies on the right. This is the right move.

If you look closely you'll find that group is trying to draw attention to election irregularities. Facebook is not an arbiter of truth, it's a platform for staying in contact with others. And as such shouldn't have an opinion either way. Once it steps outside of that role it's on a hiding to nothing as all sides will find fault - as they are.

Um... are they looking in to voter intimidation? showing up at polling stations with guns? blue dots on houses? Republican voter fraud? Something tells me they are not.

Re: Facebook Shuts Down ‘Stop the Steal’ Group

#14

Post by TheAdamAndChe »

svaha1728 wrote: post #13
cybert00th wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you look closely you'll find that group is trying to draw attention to election irregularities. Facebook is not an arbiter of truth, it's a platform for staying in contact with others. And as such shouldn't have an opinion either way. Once it steps outside of that role it's on a hiding to nothing as all sides will find fault - as they are.

Um... are they looking in to voter intimidation? showing up at polling stations with guns? blue dots on houses? Republican voter fraud? Something tells me they are not.

As far as I know, you can form groups about that too. Or at least you should be able to.

Re: Facebook Shuts Down ‘Stop the Steal’ Group

#15

Post by Traster »

DamnYuppie wrote: post #11
Traster wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes and QAnon claims to #SaveTheChildren. It doesn't mean they're actually making good faith efforts. Specifically, facebook mentions calls to violence.

Has Facebook shut down BLM or Antifa, both of which have been SHOWN to be violent?

Do they threaten/organise violence on facebook?

Re: Facebook Shuts Down ‘Stop the Steal’ Group

#16

Post by svaha1728 »

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #14
svaha1728 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Um... are they looking in to voter intimidation? showing up at polling stations with guns? blue dots on houses? Republican voter fraud? Something tells me they are not.

As far as I know, you can form groups about that too. Or at least you should be able to.

And if those groups form, and they plan kidnapping governors or running around town with guns I hope they are quickly shut down.

Re: Facebook Shuts Down ‘Stop the Steal’ Group

#17

Post by chillacy »

gentleman11 wrote: post #4

There needs to be a citizen group called ‘stop the disunity’ that tries to get people to talk to each other instead of yell at your friends who already agree with you in your social media filter bubbles

There are a few good subreddits for this, one is changemyview: https://thenextweb.com/socialmedia/2019/01/23/reddits-model-...

It's sort of interesting too as a meta point how changing the incentives (away from karma to deltas) leads to different ways of engaging people. Another facet of "the medium is the message".

Re: Facebook Shuts Down ‘Stop the Steal’ Group

#18

Post by lowercase1 »

cybert00th wrote: post #5
mmastrac wrote: post #2

"On Thursday afternoon, Facebook banned the group on the basis of attempting to delegitimize the election process, and its role in potentially instigating physical violence." No shit. Democracy is hanging by a thread in the US right now, with a president trying to shut down the democratic count and vote counters fearing for their life from crazies on the right. This is the right move.

If you look closely you'll find that group is trying to draw attention to election irregularities. Facebook is not an arbiter of truth, it's a platform for staying in contact with others. And as such shouldn't have an opinion either way. Once it steps outside of that role it's on a hiding to nothing as all sides will find fault - as they are.

Facebook provides a service that people use. Improving the likelihood of finding accurate information may increase people's likelihood of using it. Taking down groups decreases that likelihood. Which is more important isn't always clear

Re: Facebook Shuts Down ‘Stop the Steal’ Group

#19

Post by lotsofpulp »

gentleman11 wrote: post #4

There needs to be a citizen group called ‘stop the disunity’ that tries to get people to talk to each other instead of yell at your friends who already agree with you in your social media filter bubbles

What is there to talk about if the two groups assume completely opposite things?

Re: Facebook Shuts Down ‘Stop the Steal’ Group

#20

Post by zarkov99 »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #19
gentleman11 wrote: post #4

There needs to be a citizen group called ‘stop the disunity’ that tries to get people to talk to each other instead of yell at your friends who already agree with you in your social media filter bubbles

What is there to talk about if the two groups assume completely opposite things?

Everything, of course, starting with the assumptions. The alternative is war and ultimately subjugation of one of the parties.
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