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Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8

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Re: Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8

#11
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I don't see the issue here. If you're going to update your drivers for an antiquated OS, might as well just upgrade it im the process. Switching to Linux would also give you much more flexibility for long-term maintenance.

Read the article through for a much more comprensive view of the problem. It's not that simple.

Re: Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8

#12
post #2

I don't see the issue here. If you're going to update your drivers for an antiquated OS, might as well just upgrade it im the process. Switching to Linux would also give you much more flexibility for long-term maintenance.

I have at least one customer who is stuck on Server 2012 (not even R2). I hope they will be able to upgrade their servers soon. In the meantime, if I need to update my driver, I'll have to replace my HCK test suite with the HLK test suite, learn the new process, and hope the driver passes.

Re: Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8

#13
post #5

I'd like to read the article but the sidebar keeps moving up and down the page and it's really irritating.

As is often the case, the article renders fine with JavaScript and CSS disabled. This sort of scenario is why I run uMatrix in whitelist mode, with JS/CSS always disabled by default. These technologies are net negatives to me, I only enable them on select websites and my browsing experience is more pleasant on average because of it.

JS sure, but what benefit comes from disabling CSS? This is the first time I've heard of anyone doing so.

Re: Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8

#14
post #2

I don't see the issue here. If you're going to update your drivers for an antiquated OS, might as well just upgrade it im the process. Switching to Linux would also give you much more flexibility for long-term maintenance.

Windows 8.1 is under extended support until January 10, 2023.[0] Why can Microsoft still support that system up to that date, but not let anyone else? [0] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/faq/windows#what-...

Because they intentionally want to kill it, to force people into buying the new windows version.

Re: Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8

#17

It's painful to repeatedly witness people voluntarily buy into ecosystems maintained by people with perverse incentives. You can't fault MS, making more money is their raison d'etre. If you care at all, even the smallest amount, explore the alternatives.

Most of us don't really have a choice though. In larger companies a lot of decisions are being made by higher-ups before technical people even get a chance to look into the issue.

Re: Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8

#18

It's painful to repeatedly witness people voluntarily buy into ecosystems maintained by people with perverse incentives. You can't fault MS, making more money is their raison d'etre. If you care at all, even the smallest amount, explore the alternatives.

There's no commercial vendor without "perverse incentives" if "making money" is on the list. Apple, Microsoft, Sony, Google, or anyone else.

Essentially you're arguing that it is Linux or nothing, but in a very roundabout way.

Re: Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8

#19
post #16

Can anyone explain to my why people are creating new embedded systems with Windows? It seems to me that the developer experience, ecosystem and driver support is worse in literally every single way, not to mention you don't have control over the OS code.

Working video support (without hardware acceleration) out of the box without any external drivers for all current and future graphics cards because they actually implement the “core” vga spec (plus all the official and unofficial revisions to get higher resolutions working).

We have to ship updates to our bootable Linux and BSD applications every six months just so customers don’t get stuck in text mode, or worse yet, without a frame buffer after BIOS posts. Never had that problem with WinPE (RIP).

Re: Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8

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post #13
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As is often the case, the article renders fine with JavaScript and CSS disabled. This sort of scenario is why I run uMatrix in whitelist mode, with JS/CSS always disabled by default. These technologies are net negatives to me, I only enable them on select websites and my browsing experience is more pleasant on average because of it.

JS sure, but what benefit comes from disabling CSS? This is the first time I've heard of anyone doing so.

I think it is also used for tracking people. https://github.com/Bogdaan/spycss

Or maybe he just likes content without flashiness and annoying sidebars, etc

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