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Apple develops alternative to Google search

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Re: Apple develops alternative to Google search

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Post by mark_l_watson »

davidy123 wrote: post #10

I would like to see a discussion about how Siri Suggested Sites works. Say what you want about Google, but they should be admired for taking the high road on content development to support search. Their participation in schema.org, Wikipedia, and other knowledge resources leads to result that can be used at a low level by anyone. It's another matter that we should be concerned that only a few companies will have the…

+1 totally agree. Support for schema.org, WikiData, etc. is useful, a rising tide that floats all boats.

Re: Apple develops alternative to Google search

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Post by mthoms »

What the title says: "Apple has developed an alternative to Google Search".

What the content says: "Apple might be developing an alternative to Google Search".

When are mainstream, reputable outlets like FT going to realize that this kind of thing actively contributes to the "fake news" meme cycle? It's almost like they are trying to destroy their own reputations in pursuit of clicks.

What a shame.

Re: Apple develops alternative to Google search

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Post by qorrect »

ksec wrote: post #7
_jfoi wrote: post #3

Do people even check stories they submit or do they assume people have subscriptions to these sites?

As per FAQ [1] >Are paywalls ok? It's ok to post stories from sites with paywalls that have workarounds. In comments, it's ok to ask how to read an article and to help other users do so. But please don't post complaints about paywalls. Those are off topic. More here. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

It's still shitty.

Re: Apple develops alternative to Google search

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Post by eh78ssxv2f »

Nextgrid wrote: post #9

A search engine from a non-advertising-supported company is great news. Google has dropped the ball when it comes to penalizing websites that provide a bad experience (paywalls/login walls, ads, SEO filler content, etc) which makes sense when you realize that Google's revenue depends on ads so that downranking websites with ads (the aforementioned bad behaviors are often combined with ads) would be counter-productive…

> A search engine from a non-advertising-supported company is great news.

Currently, Apple actually gets money from Google for selecting the latter as its default search engine. Not only Apple will lose that money but would also need to dump money in developing + maintaining the search engine.

May be their goal is to just provide a more privacy-sensitive search but I'm a bit cynical about that motivation. So, the economic model is still unclear to me.

Re: Apple develops alternative to Google search

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Post by davidy123 »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #11
davidy123 wrote: post #10

I would like to see a discussion about how Siri Suggested Sites works. Say what you want about Google, but they should be admired for taking the high road on content development to support search. Their participation in schema.org, Wikipedia, and other knowledge resources leads to result that can be used at a low level by anyone. It's another matter that we should be concerned that only a few companies will have the…

+1 totally agree. Support for schema.org, WikiData, etc. is useful, a rising tide that floats all boats.

I don't get why the general hn crowd is antipathic, at best about this topic (I often get downvoted making any semantic web type post). Intentionally making the web into a database usable by anyone is a wonderful idea that will have knock on benefits to every corner of humanity. I honestly think it's just too much disruption for a crowd very focused on making money from vertical disruption, that has given up on larger projects.
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