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The attacks in Cuba were found to be illness brought on by new pesticides and aggressive use around embassies to kill mosquitos to prevent diplomatic staff from catching Zika virus.
sources?
Or google Havana syndrome pesticide
"Never ascribe to Malice what can also be ascribed to Incompetence"
IMHO it's a workplace-related injury of some kind. Perhaps due to (say) anti-bugging devices, or devices that aren't found in normal office environments.
Thinking my way through this thing: A. If there's a directed-energy weapon, we would know about it because we probably have one too. B. If we have one and we know they're using it, we have two choices: B.1 We call them out on it, but then we have to admit we have the thing too, and we've tested it on people so we know it does that. B.2 We don't call them out on it directly, and we just encourage affected federal empl…
The neurologists at the University of Pennsylvania found that some explanations for the Havana Syndrome, including mass hysteria and group psychosis, were highly unlikely. Many of the patients didn’t know each other, their performance on these tests could not have been faked, and they did not wallow in their pain. In fact, according to the study, they were desperately trying to get better and “were largely determined to continue to work or return to full duty, even when encouraged by health care professionals to take sick leave.” The study also concluded that these injuries were likely not caused by exposure to chemicals, since no organs other than the brain were involved. Nor were they likely to have been the product of a viral infection, the doctors said, because these patients did not display associated symptoms, like a spiking fever.
Thinking my way through this thing: A. If there's a directed-energy weapon, we would know about it because we probably have one too. B. If we have one and we know they're using it, we have two choices: B.1 We call them out on it, but then we have to admit we have the thing too, and we've tested it on people so we know it does that. B.2 We don't call them out on it directly, and we just encourage affected federal empl…
The common denominator is people working in the State Department or Intelligence Services. "Never ascribe to Malice what can also be ascribed to Incompetence" IMHO it's a workplace-related injury of some kind. Perhaps due to (say) anti-bugging devices, or devices that aren't found in normal office environments.
Thinking my way through this thing: A. If there's a directed-energy weapon, we would know about it because we probably have one too. B. If we have one and we know they're using it, we have two choices: B.1 We call them out on it, but then we have to admit we have the thing too, and we've tested it on people so we know it does that. B.2 We don't call them out on it directly, and we just encourage affected federal empl…
The article says the team at the Center for Brain Injury and Repair at the University of Pennsylvania didn't think it was mass hysteria: The neurologists at the University of Pennsylvania found that some explanations for the Havana Syndrome, including mass hysteria and group psychosis, were highly unlikely. Many of the patients didn’t know each other, their performance on these tests could not have been faked, and th…
1. Directed Energy Weapon - 40% Chance
2. In-house Embassy Comms Equipment - 30% Chance
2. Pesticide Spraying - 25% Chance
3. Psychosomatic - 5% Chance
You wanna tweak the values? Add another category? Remove a category? Weigh them different?
Thinking my way through this thing: A. If there's a directed-energy weapon, we would know about it because we probably have one too. B. If we have one and we know they're using it, we have two choices: B.1 We call them out on it, but then we have to admit we have the thing too, and we've tested it on people so we know it does that. B.2 We don't call them out on it directly, and we just encourage affected federal empl…
Not sure if I'd rely on the theory that one entity can always discover what another did. ( #1 above)
This has to be a top priority in the intelligence community, I mean like the CIA has had teams of in-house Engineers and Scientists reviewing classified information on available etiologies, plus they've probably pulled reams of SIGINT data to see if they can find any clues.
If it's being deployed in the field, the underlying tech has probably been around for a while.
It's happened in multiple major cities, so if it is an intelligence op being run by a foreign government, there's a big team running the thing working with different communications channels and crossing multiple national borders, which means there's a high risk of some information leak from the program.
Anyone in the U.S. defense industrial complex working on a similar weapon would have let the IC know, because it's great advertising for their weapon and could lead to some very lucrative contracts in both the offensive and defensive space.
So, just to pull a number off the top of my head, I'd say there's like an 85% chance someone knows what's going on.
So, then that might help us narrow-down which nation the attacks would be originating from. If we know what is doing it, and who is doing it, the President has probably been briefed on it. If China was orchestrating it, Trump probably would have just said something by now. Same for Cuba or Iran. It would play strongly in his favor politically considering the ongoing diplomatic hostilities with those nations.
Russia perhaps?
Trump probably wouldn't call out Russia based on his response to the bounty thing:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/29/trump-russian-bount...
The attacks started in Havana, and if you've ever seen the Russian embassy in Havana, it's RIGHT out of a 70's Bond movie. Seriously, look it up. The building is awesome.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embassy_of_Russia_in_Havana
If there's anything going on in Havana, the Russians either know about it, or are involved in it. It's their diplomatic backyard, they've been there since forever, and it's a pretty small city.
Idle speculation (just for fun). My money is on:
A. Russia has something to do with it.
B. President won't publicly call them out on it.
C. Intelligence community is frustrated, so they're encouraging affected employees to go public in hopes that someone outside of the security-clearance bubble will figure out what's going on.
/Pretending I'm a super-secret squirrel.