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Building a computer in Conway's game of life

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Re: Building a computer in Conway's game of life

#11

Cool and all that, but isn't this... practically and intellectually useless? Surely, you can build a computer using pebbles on the sea shore by aligning them in the specific order. How is that surprising?

They knew it was a low-quality question and so created a new account in order to post that comment. And despite knowing it was a crap comment, cared enough to make the effort to create the new account. I don't get some motivates some people.

Re: Building a computer in Conway's game of life

#12
I wonder what the most elegant Turing-complete universe is.

I believe it to be a system based on collision-based computing [1].

My hunch is this: Matter and Energy have a duality that is analogous to code and data. Einstein likened the speed of light to the speed of information. Wolfram/Toffoli/Fredkin or well, any other Cellular Automata specialist, studied the rate of propagation in CA, Lyapunov exponents. [2]

Now it seems to me, that if we can create a digital system which provides for code data duality analogous to Mass–energy equivalence [3], then we should be able to get stable structures that hold data, and stable processes that process data. I have tried for many years on and off with various CAs. Many of the CAs have been unconventional, like cells containing arrays of particles, particles being objects rather than simple numbers or enum types. And CAs based on reals or complex numbers or associated vector fields.

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Experiments

https://github.com/churchofthought/ScatterLife (CUDA)

https://github.com/churchofthought/HexagonalComplexAutomata (WebGL 2.0)

https://github.com/churchofthought/Grautamaton (WebGL 2.0)

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Example of a Complex-valued Cellular Automata based on Sandpile dynamics

Big Bang (video): https://photos.app.goo.gl/K7fovThbvatpmGQy5

End result (image): https://photos.app.goo.gl/n5amaqn8ZLVocn1Z6

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[1] https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007%2F978-3...

[2] https://www.math.ucdavis.edu/~gravner/papers/AUTOMATA2014_15...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalenc...

Re: Building a computer in Conway's game of life

#14

I wonder what the most elegant Turing-complete universe is. I believe it to be a system based on collision-based computing [1]. My hunch is this: Matter and Energy have a duality that is analogous to code and data. Einstein likened the speed of light to the speed of information. Wolfram/Toffoli/Fredkin or well, any other Cellular Automata specialist, studied the rate of propagation in CA, Lyapunov exponents. [2] Now…

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Re: Building a computer in Conway's game of life

#15
It’s interesting watching the messy complexity resolve into patterns and order as you zoom out.

It’s reminiscent of what it feels like to dig deeply into a metabolic or reproductive process in a cell and be overcome with the sheer complexity of it, then look at the back of your hand and realize it’s all happening right there, now.

Basically it feels a bit like life.

Re: Building a computer in Conway's game of life

#17
post #15

It’s interesting watching the messy complexity resolve into patterns and order as you zoom out. It’s reminiscent of what it feels like to dig deeply into a metabolic or reproductive process in a cell and be overcome with the sheer complexity of it, then look at the back of your hand and realize it’s all happening right there, now. Basically it feels a bit like life.

The first time I heard of Conway's Game of Life I was blown away. It was an example of potentially incredible complexity that can be arranged to large scale patterns emerge. It was the first time I took the idea of the universe being simulated (or created) seriously. Even more fascinating for me is the idea that we can't analytically calculate the outcome. To find out what happens we have to simulate it.

Even if the real world has a creator (or is a simulation), my money would be on it being impossible for the creator to know what is going to happen. Life would be the simulation.

Re: Building a computer in Conway's game of life

#19
post #10

I remember seeing that video 3 years ago and being blown away. In case someone doesn't already know it, here is Conway's Game of Life simulated in Conway's Game of Life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP5-iIeKXE8

Blog post about the OTCA metapixel: https://web.archive.org/web/20200831001939/http://www.amanda...

Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24323011

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