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Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by dmix »

jfengel wrote: post #6

From (2006). Since then it's had 23 cites, mostly in the context of alternative medicine. The one study that seemed to investigate it[1] dismissed it in passing. The guy publishes a lot in Medical Hypotheses , on a wide range of topics (topical gallium for arthritis, taurine for cardiac arrythmia, magnesium for depression). The email address is at "coldcure.com". Which strikes me as having a whiff of crankery to it,…

This fits the 'novel, unexpected, and unusual' byline that provide the perfect butter for things to go viral. Pseudo-science often has these features sadly (not to assume he's wrong here, even clocks strikes right, etc).

Edit: coldcure.com was recently sold off but prior to that it had a long history of hocking naturpath "common cold cure" pills

https://web.archive.org/web/20060103011343/http://www.coldcu...

From a 1995 NYTimers article about the author George Elby

> MORE than 10 years ago, George A. Eby, a city planner turned self-educated pharmacologist, made headlines with a study showing that zinc lozenges could cut down the average length of a cold to about 4 days from nearly 11. [...] Although several studies have subsequently supported Mr. Eby's initial findings, others have found no such link between zinc and the common cold.

https://www.nytimes.com/1995/05/29/business/patents-751395.h...

I'd keep my bullshit meter slightly higher on this one.

Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by hinkley »

frompdx wrote: post #8

An hour a day is a lot. However, as someone who suffers from allergies and is not able to control symptoms with allergy medications alone, I am willing to give it a try (although this method is intended to treat irritation from fungus). Incidentally, this reminds me of something very similar for treating COPD called the "Lung Flute". It also works by using low frequency vibrations to clear the airways in the lungs. h…

I had the same thought. There’s a particular interview about that where the writer confessed that after trying out the flute he fell into a serious coughing fit.

But I thought it was more for Cystic Fibrosis than Obstructive Pulmonary disease (they do have their own breathing exercises and devices to increase breathing muscles and lung capacity though).

Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by whoknew1122 »

Interesting and might help. I guess? Still strongly suggest going to the doctor if you get sinus infections a lot.

After _years_ of trouble I finally went to an ENT. Turns out a poorly-healed broken nose caused a 90% obstruction of a nostril. They fixed my nose, and my sinuses cleared up mostly.

Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by m463 »

jfengel wrote: post #6

From (2006). Since then it's had 23 cites, mostly in the context of alternative medicine. The one study that seemed to investigate it[1] dismissed it in passing. The guy publishes a lot in Medical Hypotheses , on a wide range of topics (topical gallium for arthritis, taurine for cardiac arrythmia, magnesium for depression). The email address is at "coldcure.com". Which strikes me as having a whiff of crankery to it,…

It does sound plausible, because I believe sleep apnea can get some help by playing the didgeridoo which is along the same lines.

Of course plausible edge cases might be the best clickbait, so yeah.

Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by secondcoming »

jfengel wrote: post #6

From (2006). Since then it's had 23 cites, mostly in the context of alternative medicine. The one study that seemed to investigate it[1] dismissed it in passing. The guy publishes a lot in Medical Hypotheses , on a wide range of topics (topical gallium for arthritis, taurine for cardiac arrythmia, magnesium for depression). The email address is at "coldcure.com". Which strikes me as having a whiff of crankery to it,…

I'm humming while reading your comment though. I'll check back tomorrow morning.

Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by floatingatoll »

whoknew1122 wrote: post #13

Interesting and might help. I guess? Still strongly suggest going to the doctor if you get sinus infections a lot. After _years_ of trouble I finally went to an ENT. Turns out a poorly-healed broken nose caused a 90% obstruction of a nostril. They fixed my nose, and my sinuses cleared up mostly.

Same story, except congenital defects impairing both airways. Humming might still be helpful now that I’ve had surgery to create airways at all, but it’s no cure for blocked airways themselves.

Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by treeman79 »

hinkley wrote: post #12
frompdx wrote: post #8

An hour a day is a lot. However, as someone who suffers from allergies and is not able to control symptoms with allergy medications alone, I am willing to give it a try (although this method is intended to treat irritation from fungus). Incidentally, this reminds me of something very similar for treating COPD called the "Lung Flute". It also works by using low frequency vibrations to clear the airways in the lungs. h…

I had the same thought. There’s a particular interview about that where the writer confessed that after trying out the flute he fell into a serious coughing fit. But I thought it was more for Cystic Fibrosis than Obstructive Pulmonary disease (they do have their own breathing exercises and devices to increase breathing muscles and lung capacity though).

A bad coughing fit often means My lungs are clearing. I will feel much better in a bit. Usually after an inhaler.

Or I have an embolism. That’s less fun

Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by colechristensen »

m463 wrote: post #14
jfengel wrote: post #6

From (2006). Since then it's had 23 cites, mostly in the context of alternative medicine. The one study that seemed to investigate it[1] dismissed it in passing. The guy publishes a lot in Medical Hypotheses , on a wide range of topics (topical gallium for arthritis, taurine for cardiac arrythmia, magnesium for depression). The email address is at "coldcure.com". Which strikes me as having a whiff of crankery to it,…

It does sound plausible, because I believe sleep apnea can get some help by playing the didgeridoo which is along the same lines. Of course plausible edge cases might be the best clickbait, so yeah.

The sleep apnea help comes from strengthening muscles in your throat, it wouldn’t have anything to do with sinuses.

Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by blunte »

I wonder if some part of the answer is in the vibration affecting cell behavior (regeneration, reduced inflammation).

Vibration sometimes increases circulation to areas being vibrated, and increased circulation feeds more oxygen to cells while they are being agitated.

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