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Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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>when you open several windows with the same application (like when you open several LibreOffice documents), the Task Manager will group them together. This is exactly the opposite of what I want. Why don't the designers of 21st-century desktop environments understand that my 3 PDF files have nothing to do with one another? The same goes for my terminals, my text buffers, my web pages.... Why group things that are in…

Since it's KDE you can switch this feature off :)

You may be looking for activities (they are useful to group related tasks together).

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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post #6

>when you open several windows with the same application (like when you open several LibreOffice documents), the Task Manager will group them together. This is exactly the opposite of what I want. Why don't the designers of 21st-century desktop environments understand that my 3 PDF files have nothing to do with one another? The same goes for my terminals, my text buffers, my web pages.... Why group things that are in…

> This is exactly the opposite of what I want.

Well maybe it's what everyone else wants. Either way it's just the default they're changing, one good thing about grouping in Plasma is it lets you exclude certain applications so you can exclude your PDF viewer. Alot of other environments give an all or nothing approach.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

#13
post #6

>when you open several windows with the same application (like when you open several LibreOffice documents), the Task Manager will group them together. This is exactly the opposite of what I want. Why don't the designers of 21st-century desktop environments understand that my 3 PDF files have nothing to do with one another? The same goes for my terminals, my text buffers, my web pages.... Why group things that are in…

KDE is quite good at customizing this stuff. You can pin documents and windows to Workspace or Activity. It even remembers this config between sessions.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

#14
Does it now support using two monitors with different scaling factors? With display calibration?

This is what is holding me back at the moment: heterogenous scaling is only available in wayland, but color calibration (colord-kde) only works in X11.

I think I'll give Gnome another try this time around.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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post #6

>when you open several windows with the same application (like when you open several LibreOffice documents), the Task Manager will group them together. This is exactly the opposite of what I want. Why don't the designers of 21st-century desktop environments understand that my 3 PDF files have nothing to do with one another? The same goes for my terminals, my text buffers, my web pages.... Why group things that are in…

The update won't change your settings.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Does it now support using two monitors with different scaling factors? With display calibration? This is what is holding me back at the moment: heterogenous scaling is only available in wayland, but color calibration (colord-kde) only works in X11. I think I'll give Gnome another try this time around.

Sadly color calibration is not yet available in KWin-wayland. I saw a MR around but it didn't got merged yet. It will probably come in Plasma 5.21.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

#19

People using KDE Plasma and not using some sort of rolling release distro are missing out, I think. 5.18 LTS was a very very solid release, but 5.19 and 5.20 have so much new that it's a bummer for people whose distros won't be seeing them any time soon.

I am using some old LTS version and I am fine, I run Arch many years ago so I had my time of updating to latest and greatest but now I no longer need latest apps or libraries and only thinking that the next system update will bring me new bugs or changes I don't want to handle at this moment does not appeal to me anymore.

When I need something I will intentionally up[grade that program (for my IDE I keep old versions around to revert) and for my system I upgraded my video driver only when I had to, the rest is all LTS stiff.

Just making my a point that for some people the updates is no longer(or was never) an exiting thing and as long as your current machine just works there is no reason to break it.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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KDE 5 Plasma is amazing. Subjectively, I feel the following about it: after over 2 decades of being extremely buggy and extremely ugly, KDE has became a culmination of desktop PC GUI design, the best I've experienced so far (tiling WMs can be better in certain tasks and settings but not universally).

Manjaro with recent KDE provides me what I call "a lot like Mac but way better" experience (surely, there are aspects in which Mac or any other system is better, I just don't know which particular).

And it has made a great replacement once Ubuntu lost its Unity (right at the moment it became polished enough).

The only disappointing part are the plasmoids - I could make a lot of use of some desktop widgets but it's pain to find useful plasmoids and make them work, making your own plasmoids seems complicated.

In fact I'd be comfortable with a generic terminal plasmoid (with a read-only mode option) and a generic browser (just display a specific URL, refresh periodically, basic HTML support is enough) plasmoid but it seems too much hassle to build them. I just wonder why these are not available OOTB.

More (and easy) hackability could also make KDE even cooler.

UPDATE (some more things I'd like to be fixed just came to my mind as I had a cup of tea):

KDE still has not reached the Unity level of the Mac-like global menu (D-BUS menu) support: some apps which worked with Unity global menu perfectly (and also work on Mac) still won't work with the global menu in KDE. I had to fall-back to the "Windows way" of having menus in every window to maintain uniform experience among different apps - too many apps left the global menu bar empty. This isn't a particularly serious problem though. Unity's facility of searching through menu items was also insanely cool and should be ported (as we have the D-BUS menu anyway).

I want to completely disable clipboard management so it wouldn't remember clipboard history (which is a security issue) and wouldn't clear the clipboard as soon as I close the window (extremely inconvenient - I often want to open a window just to copy something, close it and paste that somewhere else). But I could never find how.

I don't want tray messages to pop-up as soon as I start copying files. I'm not even sure I want them when the process finishes (perhaps there is a less annoying way to know it's done).

I'd like an option for Yakuake to actually replace Konsole so whenever I click "open terminal here" (preferably - in any app) it would open a new tab in Yakuake.

That's all the improvements to make KDE effectively perfect IMHO.

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