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Open Letter from LibreOffice to Apache OpenOffice

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Re: Open Letter from LibreOffice to Apache OpenOffice

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Post by musicale »

blendergeek wrote: post #9
musicale wrote: post #8

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> Despite OpenOffice having barely any development in 10 years, many users still have never heard of its successor That sounds like a publicity failure and/or a failure to work together on the same project. The obvious solution is to unfork and to restore the openoffice name and domain, but I guess that would require the two groups to actually cooperate with each other.

> The obvious solution is to unfork and to restore the openoffice name and domain, but I guess that would require the two groups to actually cooperate with each other. Well, I'm not sure what you mean by "unfork". Do we return to the OpenOffice codebase? If so, we are setting development back 10 years. If we return to the LibreOffice codebase, well this is exactly what The Document Foundation is asking for. Except th…

By unfork I mean merging into a single source tree, single software project name (OpenOffice) and single web site (openoffice.org) rather than two of everything. Adios Apache OpenOffice 2014 and TDF LibreOffice 2020, hello OpenOffice 2021!

I don't particularly care about the mechanism or whether it's what TDF or AF wants or doesn't want, so long as it happens.

Re: Open Letter from LibreOffice to Apache OpenOffice

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Post by mindcrime »

josteink wrote: post #10
mindcrime wrote: post #7

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The Document Foundation could make a groveling blog post apologizing for 10 years of development on a fork of OpenOffice. Nobody is asking for any such thing. But, ya know, what might be nice would be a blog post saying "Yes, we've kinda been dicks about this whole thing for the past 10 years, and we want to put aside any differences and animosity, and not have an acrimonious relationship between the two projects. An…

That's lots of "yes, however, why, what about, etc", except the one true question which should be answered: What value is Apache OpenOffice providing to anyone, anywhere right now ? Why should we have to expend mental effort to even acknowledge that it still exists, and still is where LibreOffice was 6 years ago, if even there? I don't think anyone has been willing to answer that in a clear, understandable, objective…

Why should we have to expend mental effort to even acknowledge that it still exists,

So why are you expending mental energy on it? Why does any of this matter to LO people at this point? LO has everything now, if you believe the prevailing narrative: the nicer, newer, shinier office suite, the developer mind-share, the press adoration, etc., etc. But somehow that isn't enough. It feels like one of those deals where somebody gets divorced and gets EVERYTHING they wanted, but their former spouse gets to keep the dog that they picked out, took care of, and loved... and the one who got everything burns with righteous hatred over the fact that their spouse got the one thing they cared about. Not because they want the dog (hell, they hated that stupid dog)... no, they just can't share any happiness, or warmth, or love. The other person must be miserable, for some reason.

I don't think anyone has been willing to answer that in a clear, understandable, objectively irrefutable way.

Nobody is asking you to spend any mental energy on this. Somebody on the LO side chose to engage on this subject, chose to write this "open letter" and chose to continue spewing spite, hatred, and indignation. If you want an "answer" maybe ask a different question: why do the LO people refuse to let go and move on?

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