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The shadow investment wars of Alibaba and Tencent

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Re: The shadow investment wars of Alibaba and Tencent

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It’s interesting to note that tech companies in America have far larger cash balances [0], which they’ve generally chosen to not spend in favor of smaller acquisitions / investments that they then develop into something larger once acquired. This has begun to change in recent years as greater investments have occurred, but are in comparison still much smaller than what Asian tech companies are willing to throw down.…

Fear of regulation is a large factor in strangling M&A here. In many respects, the U.S. government actively hampers and acts at the detriment to American tech companies, whereas it's the complete opposite in China. Tech companies in America succeed in spite of our government. And this honestly baffles me. We should be enacting policy that supports, not hinders, the industry that quite literally is the only reason our…

Many of the tech companies you see today wouldn’t exist, if the US policies allowed monopolies to exist unchecked.

Re: The shadow investment wars of Alibaba and Tencent

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It’s interesting to note that tech companies in America have far larger cash balances [0], which they’ve generally chosen to not spend in favor of smaller acquisitions / investments that they then develop into something larger once acquired. This has begun to change in recent years as greater investments have occurred, but are in comparison still much smaller than what Asian tech companies are willing to throw down.…

Fear of regulation is a large factor in strangling M&A here. In many respects, the U.S. government actively hampers and acts at the detriment to American tech companies, whereas it's the complete opposite in China. Tech companies in America succeed in spite of our government. And this honestly baffles me. We should be enacting policy that supports, not hinders, the industry that quite literally is the only reason our…

can you tell me what exactly the purpose is of supporting an industry that is, by your own admission, not struggling?

Re: The shadow investment wars of Alibaba and Tencent

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It’s interesting to note that tech companies in America have far larger cash balances [0], which they’ve generally chosen to not spend in favor of smaller acquisitions / investments that they then develop into something larger once acquired. This has begun to change in recent years as greater investments have occurred, but are in comparison still much smaller than what Asian tech companies are willing to throw down.…

Fear of regulation is a large factor in strangling M&A here. In many respects, the U.S. government actively hampers and acts at the detriment to American tech companies, whereas it's the complete opposite in China. Tech companies in America succeed in spite of our government. And this honestly baffles me. We should be enacting policy that supports, not hinders, the industry that quite literally is the only reason our…

I'm concerned that you don't seem to believe America is in a recession at present.

Re: The shadow investment wars of Alibaba and Tencent

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It’s interesting to note that tech companies in America have far larger cash balances [0], which they’ve generally chosen to not spend in favor of smaller acquisitions / investments that they then develop into something larger once acquired. This has begun to change in recent years as greater investments have occurred, but are in comparison still much smaller than what Asian tech companies are willing to throw down.…

Fear of regulation is a large factor in strangling M&A here. In many respects, the U.S. government actively hampers and acts at the detriment to American tech companies, whereas it's the complete opposite in China. Tech companies in America succeed in spite of our government. And this honestly baffles me. We should be enacting policy that supports, not hinders, the industry that quite literally is the only reason our…

You misunderstand success. Yes regulation inhibits profit. In return businesses are forced to offer more utility to users and to develop better technologies. The Chinese economy is more of a cartel with tight bonds between business and government all attempting to serve the government and meet its foreign policy goals. In a deregulated economy, the result is the same except it's private companies with no transparency or accountability owning and operating the cartel instead of a public organization like the government.

And the U.S. is in a depression. There is no plan for the Federal Reserve to recoup all the 6 trillion plus dollars it's invested in the last few months. Our economic demise is coming soon.

Re: The shadow investment wars of Alibaba and Tencent

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It’s interesting to note that tech companies in America have far larger cash balances [0], which they’ve generally chosen to not spend in favor of smaller acquisitions / investments that they then develop into something larger once acquired. This has begun to change in recent years as greater investments have occurred, but are in comparison still much smaller than what Asian tech companies are willing to throw down.…

Fear of regulation is a large factor in strangling M&A here. In many respects, the U.S. government actively hampers and acts at the detriment to American tech companies, whereas it's the complete opposite in China. Tech companies in America succeed in spite of our government. And this honestly baffles me. We should be enacting policy that supports, not hinders, the industry that quite literally is the only reason our…

Which particular aspect of regulation is crushing American tech companies?

- Honesty in financial disclosure?

- Fairness in employment policies?

- Responsibility in data governance and handling?

Something else?

Re: The shadow investment wars of Alibaba and Tencent

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Fear of regulation is a large factor in strangling M&A here. In many respects, the U.S. government actively hampers and acts at the detriment to American tech companies, whereas it's the complete opposite in China. Tech companies in America succeed in spite of our government. And this honestly baffles me. We should be enacting policy that supports, not hinders, the industry that quite literally is the only reason our…

Which particular aspect of regulation is crushing American tech companies? - Honesty in financial disclosure? - Fairness in employment policies? - Responsibility in data governance and handling? Something else?

It's not formal law, but informal warnings straight from congress and who knows what else privately. Ex: The current investigation into big tech poo-pooing FB's acquisitions of WhatsApp & Instagram, who say that under current law that there isn't anything illegal going on, but maybe we, congress, should make that kind of stuff illegal too.

Everyone has learned from microsoft's antitrust trial you want some semblance of a competitor and not look too self serving.

Re: The shadow investment wars of Alibaba and Tencent

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Fear of regulation is a large factor in strangling M&A here. In many respects, the U.S. government actively hampers and acts at the detriment to American tech companies, whereas it's the complete opposite in China. Tech companies in America succeed in spite of our government. And this honestly baffles me. We should be enacting policy that supports, not hinders, the industry that quite literally is the only reason our…

I'm concerned that you don't seem to believe America is in a recession at present.

Even before COVID most economic growth in the USA was tech companies.

Re: The shadow investment wars of Alibaba and Tencent

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Which particular aspect of regulation is crushing American tech companies? - Honesty in financial disclosure? - Fairness in employment policies? - Responsibility in data governance and handling? Something else?

It's not formal law, but informal warnings straight from congress and who knows what else privately. Ex: The current investigation into big tech poo-pooing FB's acquisitions of WhatsApp & Instagram, who say that under current law that there isn't anything illegal going on, but maybe we, congress, should make that kind of stuff illegal too. Everyone has learned from microsoft's antitrust trial you want some semblance…

So...nothing that low overhead ethical business practices would make a company uncompetitive.

Re: The shadow investment wars of Alibaba and Tencent

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Fear of regulation is a large factor in strangling M&A here. In many respects, the U.S. government actively hampers and acts at the detriment to American tech companies, whereas it's the complete opposite in China. Tech companies in America succeed in spite of our government. And this honestly baffles me. We should be enacting policy that supports, not hinders, the industry that quite literally is the only reason our…

> the industry that quite literally is the only reason our country currently isn't in a recession. Why do you believe this to be true? Google, Facebook, Netflix, etc. don’t employ _that_ many workers. Yes, there are contractors associated with each, and localized impact for service workers (now surely less.) But I’m not sure that we can say tech is saving our economy right now. Amazon requires people to buy to increa…

We go to great lengths to protect US steel workers, and those three companies employ about 3x as many as all steel companies in the US combined.

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The US tech giants can't spend their huge cash piles. Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Intel, Amazon, Apple, Cisco, etc. are not allowed to buy up the competition freely. That's a big reason they're sitting on so much cash, they can't really spend it on anything in a sane / responsible manner. About the only thing they can safely, legally do with it is toss it back to shareholders. Intel for example would never have been…

What about Facebook buying Instagram and WhatsApp?

99% of this website, and a lot of Washington wants those acquisitions undone.
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