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The Lucrative Art of Chicken Sexing (2017)

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Re: The Lucrative Art of Chicken Sexing (2017)

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Post by jamil7 »

Bancakes wrote: post #9
cies wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With so many replacements products, it has never been easier. A replacement is at hand within a few meters of the animal derived product in most modern supermarkets. Also, Youtube is full of inspiration of how to replace any animal derived product. It's never been easier. I think its more the will, than the ability, that's needed. And if someone considers some products "too hard to switch away from" then, just keep b…

What I'm saying is, it's really easy for me to boil a dozen eggs, grill some chicken bits, and boil half a pack of brown rice or quinoa. A week's worth of food, the caloric density is astounding. I then only need to make salads or play with frozen veggies. All of this is really cheap and quick to make. Almond/coconut/soy milk costs nearly three times as much as cow's milk in my country, and the substitute 'meats' are…

Dried beans, lentils, pulses and brown rice are cheap and dense in calories + protein. Throw some seasonal vegetables in when you have them. Eat some cut oats for breakfast. Nothing pretentious about that! You don't need all the processed meat substitutes, they're not especially healthy either. Also cows milk surely must be more expensive than oat milk to produce, but we all live in countries where dairy is heavily subsidized.

Re: The Lucrative Art of Chicken Sexing (2017)

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Post by waterhouse »

Bancakes wrote: post #9
cies wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With so many replacements products, it has never been easier. A replacement is at hand within a few meters of the animal derived product in most modern supermarkets. Also, Youtube is full of inspiration of how to replace any animal derived product. It's never been easier. I think its more the will, than the ability, that's needed. And if someone considers some products "too hard to switch away from" then, just keep b…

What I'm saying is, it's really easy for me to boil a dozen eggs, grill some chicken bits, and boil half a pack of brown rice or quinoa. A week's worth of food, the caloric density is astounding. I then only need to make salads or play with frozen veggies. All of this is really cheap and quick to make. Almond/coconut/soy milk costs nearly three times as much as cow's milk in my country, and the substitute 'meats' are…

Cheerful meat-eater here. I think that, if you got your protein through legumes, that would be even cheaper than eggs. It would probably mean rearchitecting your food in general rather than using drop-in replacements.

One website says that the cheapest eggs on its list (Costco) are 70 grams of protein per dollar, while the cheapest beans (pinto) are 80 grams per dollar, and lentils are 116 grams per dollar. Hmm, that difference is smaller than I expected. https://efficiencyiseverything.com/calorie-per-dollar-list/

Re: The Lucrative Art of Chicken Sexing (2017)

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Post by iflp »

thom wrote: post #3

So obviously everyone reading this is going to go away and spawn and computer vision startup, and it turns out much progress has already been made[0][1], including prediction sex before hatching[2]. 0: https://vixra.org/pdf/1405.0016v1.pdf 1: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342532726_Estimatio... 2: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00071668.2019.1...

Vixra is not usually considered as a credible source.

Re: The Lucrative Art of Chicken Sexing (2017)

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Post by Bancakes »

waterhouse wrote: post #12
Bancakes wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I'm saying is, it's really easy for me to boil a dozen eggs, grill some chicken bits, and boil half a pack of brown rice or quinoa. A week's worth of food, the caloric density is astounding. I then only need to make salads or play with frozen veggies. All of this is really cheap and quick to make. Almond/coconut/soy milk costs nearly three times as much as cow's milk in my country, and the substitute 'meats' are…

Cheerful meat-eater here. I think that, if you got your protein through legumes, that would be even cheaper than eggs. It would probably mean rearchitecting your food in general rather than using drop-in replacements. One website says that the cheapest eggs on its list (Costco) are 70 grams of protein per dollar, while the cheapest beans (pinto) are 80 grams per dollar, and lentils are 116 grams per dollar. Hmm, that…

That's awesome, however I also enjoy a varied diet. Thanks for the link.

Re: The Lucrative Art of Chicken Sexing (2017)

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Post by MisterTea »

cies wrote: post #4

Calling it an art does not make it less cruel. That something is lucrative does not mean it's nice (ask slavery victims). Please consider not buying animal products, you can easily do without it. Thank you.

Nothing quite beats the videos of live male chicks getting tossed down a chute and strait into a shredder like garbage at a recycling center.

Re: The Lucrative Art of Chicken Sexing (2017)

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Post by Ntrails »

cies wrote: post #4

Calling it an art does not make it less cruel. That something is lucrative does not mean it's nice (ask slavery victims). Please consider not buying animal products, you can easily do without it. Thank you.

Ah yes, the old "Eating/Kepping animals is just like slavery, you're all monsters" chestnut...

Do you really think that anyone is going to see this comment and reconsider eating meat, or wearing leather? Because "that nice _cies_ person on the internet told me I'm a terrible human being"?

Re: The Lucrative Art of Chicken Sexing (2017)

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Post by ceejayoz »

cies wrote: post #7
Bancakes wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not easily.

With so many replacements products, it has never been easier. A replacement is at hand within a few meters of the animal derived product in most modern supermarkets. Also, Youtube is full of inspiration of how to replace any animal derived product. It's never been easier. I think its more the will, than the ability, that's needed. And if someone considers some products "too hard to switch away from" then, just keep b…

I’d really like to see someone do the math on how many animals get killed growing plant-based meat substitutes. Mice sucked up when they harvest the corn, bugs sprayed with pesticides, etc.

Pasture-raised grass-fed beef might come out way better in comparison.

Re: The Lucrative Art of Chicken Sexing (2017)

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Post by graphpapa »

ceejayoz wrote: post #17
cies wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With so many replacements products, it has never been easier. A replacement is at hand within a few meters of the animal derived product in most modern supermarkets. Also, Youtube is full of inspiration of how to replace any animal derived product. It's never been easier. I think its more the will, than the ability, that's needed. And if someone considers some products "too hard to switch away from" then, just keep b…

I’d really like to see someone do the math on how many animals get killed growing plant-based meat substitutes. Mice sucked up when they harvest the corn, bugs sprayed with pesticides, etc. Pasture-raised grass-fed beef might come out way better in comparison.

This makes it sound like plant based diets are much crueler than they make out to be - but that harm is surely still an order of magnitude reduced compared to farming animals?

One is collateral damage (mice sucked up etc.) but the other is _premised_ on death.

Re: The Lucrative Art of Chicken Sexing (2017)

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Post by amelius »

Uberphallus wrote: post #18
amelius wrote: post #2

Before anyone says ML: what we need is sexing of early stage embryos.

Or GMO male chickens that only produce Z gametes.

Yes, but at that point you're directly interfering in the biological systems, instead of just selecting.

This may be a problem for a lot of people, especially as byproducts may enter the food chain.

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