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Re: Ask HN: Review my startup, Beansight.com

#11

Post by Oyinko »

acrum wrote: post #9
genystartup wrote: post #2

Lovely design and good effort on the coding. I just don't like that having to log in to vote bit. It's unnecessary in my honest opinion.

I agree. Let non-users vote, but make people sign in to add comments or post their own predictions. You can include some kind of measures to make sure someone doesn't vote more than once or twice.

I know that making people sign in to vote is a lot of work for them.

But, we need to track what people vote on Beansight to calculate their expertise on prediction.

But maybe the possibility to vote on a prediction without sign-in could be a first step to make them connected to Beansight.

Re: Ask HN: Review my startup, Beansight.com

#12

Post by genystartup »

acrum wrote: post #9
genystartup wrote: post #2

Lovely design and good effort on the coding. I just don't like that having to log in to vote bit. It's unnecessary in my honest opinion.

I agree. Let non-users vote, but make people sign in to add comments or post their own predictions. You can include some kind of measures to make sure someone doesn't vote more than once or twice.

good point. Make people log in to comment (and use that to judge expertise), but anyone can vote for whatever. The fact that I make a lucky guess about something that eventually happens, doesn't make me an expert. What the person says to back up predictions however is a real deciding factor.

Re: Ask HN: Review my startup, Beansight.com

#13

Post by acrum »

Oyinko wrote: post #11
acrum wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. Let non-users vote, but make people sign in to add comments or post their own predictions. You can include some kind of measures to make sure someone doesn't vote more than once or twice.

I know that making people sign in to vote is a lot of work for them. But, we need to track what people vote on Beansight to calculate their expertise on prediction. But maybe the possibility to vote on a prediction without sign-in could be a first step to make them connected to Beansight.

Yes, you could have them vote and then give them the opportunity to sign up. Store a cookie or something so they can only get one vote as an unregistered user. Of course, this could be hacked, but you could put in provisions to check for multiple votes from the same unregistered user's IP, etc.

Re: Ask HN: Review my startup, Beansight.com

#14

Post by derrida »

Oyinko wrote: post #7
derrida wrote: post #6

Just a thought: Whether a prediction is objectively good or not is different to whether the prediction is seen as good or not. If you can think of a mechanism to figure out whether a prediction was good or not after the event has happened, the system could then make a second order prediction about whether that user's a good predictor or not. Keep me up to date if you manage to solve any of these problems.

We worked on an algorithm that will check every prediction to know if they happened or not. If members record a prediction on Beansight and that it happens, they will be rewarded. If they record predictions that will not happen, they will lose credibility points.

How do you check if it has happened or not? Is this based on peoples votes after the predicted time of the event? What if someone wants to make a prediction that involves when something occurs?

Re: Ask HN: Review my startup, Beansight.com

#16

Post by geeyom »

derrida wrote: post #14
Oyinko wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We worked on an algorithm that will check every prediction to know if they happened or not. If members record a prediction on Beansight and that it happens, they will be rewarded. If they record predictions that will not happen, they will lose credibility points.

How do you check if it has happened or not? Is this based on peoples votes after the predicted time of the event? What if someone wants to make a prediction that involves when something occurs?

Hello Derrida,

The algorithm to check whether the prediction occurred is based on each single vote. It weights more people with a great expertise score and weights more votes close to the deadline or votes that passed the deadline.

If the prediction comes to an end before the deadline, then the algorithm will wait to reach the deadline to validate it. But we will soon let the community close a prediction if they decide it's over.

Guillaume

Re: Ask HN: Review my startup, Beansight.com

#17

Post by daniel1980fl »

I think GUI looks up to date :) I only think both left and right menu should be smaller and this would give more place for the main feature (predictions) then you could enlarge prediction title style. oh, and those thumbs make me think its like someone "like" or "dislike" the idea. it would be nice to say something like "impossible" vs "most likely to happen".

Re: Ask HN: Review my startup, Beansight.com

#18

Post by daniel1980fl »

geeyom wrote: post #16
derrida wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you check if it has happened or not? Is this based on peoples votes after the predicted time of the event? What if someone wants to make a prediction that involves when something occurs?

Hello Derrida, The algorithm to check whether the prediction occurred is based on each single vote. It weights more people with a great expertise score and weights more votes close to the deadline or votes that passed the deadline. If the prediction comes to an end before the deadline, then the algorithm will wait to reach the deadline to validate it. But we will soon let the community close a prediction if they deci…

I think what he asking is how will your system know whether prediction happened or not.

let say I predict June 1st they will be snow. 70% says nay, 30% says yes. June 1st comes, the snow fallen down -- how will your system know that and update this prediction?

you not going to do it manually right? that is, if you plan to enlarge predictions database... you not going to have 10,000 employees checking each prediction.

the only way to execute it is after the thing happen, give users second vote on whether prediction was right or not... but something this can be subjective... so users which "lost" can vote like they havent "lost", lol.

as much as I like the idea, it tells me there is soo much daily system management (means spending $$$) versus I cannot see a stable, solid, long-term revenue stream.

Re: Ask HN: Review my startup, Beansight.com

#20

Post by Oyinko »

wvanwazer wrote: post #8
tdoggette wrote: post #3

Typo: "Prouve your expertise" should be "Prove".

Also, "Read Experts" doesn't really make sense. You need another word at the end. Perhaps "Read Expert Predictions" or "Learn from Experts."

You are right. We are working on a new page and we need to improve the wording.
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