Imagine paying for a device only for it to advertise to you.
I would compare Advertisers are to parasites honestly.
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#12I wonder if there is a market for dumb TVs. They basically don't exist today. Closest thing I could get was a Dell conference room monitor, which is $1200 for a 55 inch, and $4500 for a 75 inch. A far cry from the $700 I spent on my current 75 inch TV, but I'm strongly considering it.
There's probably a market, but the question is how big? TV's have gotten so cheap because of the ads and data mining, so a TV that doesn't have that would be considerably more expensive.
People on HN might spend more for some privacy, but most average consumers definitely wouldn't.
I almost would like to see Apple release a television that has tvOS built in.
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#13This should just straight out be forbidden and regulation is the only way out of it.
Voting with money is not going to stop this as all major players with high-end devices are pushing this. On top of it, this information is usually a nice surprise after you already bought and setup the device.
To even further push the boundaries, they are adding (more) advertising to devices that have been purchased years ago!
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#14I wonder if there is a market for dumb TVs. They basically don't exist today. Closest thing I could get was a Dell conference room monitor, which is $1200 for a 55 inch, and $4500 for a 75 inch. A far cry from the $700 I spent on my current 75 inch TV, but I'm strongly considering it.
I've got 3 dumb TVs in my house from the mini-stock up I did a few years ago when it looked like they were going away. They're all Samsungs, oddly enough. A 50", a 55", and a 60". My only hope is that they last long enough to come out the other side of the only-Smart-TVs tunnel.
Yeah, they're "only" 1080p, but then again, my movie collection is mostly standard definition anyway. I realized that I don't need higher than that if I'm enjoying a movie/TV show: I stop noticing the picture quality once the story quality surpasses it.
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#15Made a mental note to buy only the dumb tv. If I want streaming options I would rather setup my own. Or for non-tech I would recommend dumb tv + apple tv or Chromecast
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#16What the actual fucking fuck!!! I fucking paid for it. I own it. That's my property. Isn't this illegal of Samsung to do it?
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#17I wonder if there is a market for dumb TVs. They basically don't exist today. Closest thing I could get was a Dell conference room monitor, which is $1200 for a 55 inch, and $4500 for a 75 inch. A far cry from the $700 I spent on my current 75 inch TV, but I'm strongly considering it.
A smart TV can be a dumb TV if you never connect it to the internet and just plug in whatever you want to it via HDMI. I have a 'smart' TV myself and the only buttons I use on the remote are power and input select. It's never seen the internet since I've had it. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before these TVs require 'activation' and frequent 'reactivation' before you can use them though. Alternatively they may…
TVs in China already got around this by displaying ads even when not internet connected.
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#18I am waiting for some manufacturer to add a camera disguised for remote work or something similar and then use it to pause ads when you are not looking. Spotify already does this.
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#19I keep seeing people who argue that TVs would be notably "more expensive" if they didn't come with ads.
Let's say that the average Samsung TV costs $1,000, ad revenue per person is around $30 a year, and the average lifespan of a TV is 10 years. I own a Samsung TV since 2016. I think they may have pushed 5 firmware updates since then.
There is no way I can be convinced that Samsung needs to increase the price of TVs by 20%. Also, if that's the difference, why can't I just pay more and opt out? And why are other users in other countries not being shown ads?
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#20Made a mental note to buy only the dumb tv. If I want streaming options I would rather setup my own. Or for non-tech I would recommend dumb tv + apple tv or Chromecast
Absolutely. If forced (as in there are no dumb tv options that are viable), I'd reluctantly buy a smart TV, but I'd never let it actually connect it up.