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Apple sues Samsung: a complete lawsuit analysis

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Re: Apple sues Samsung: a complete lawsuit analysis

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Post by cube13 »

patrickaljord wrote: post #8

Interesting post from reddit about trade dress http://i.imgur.com/aLGOQ.jpg from http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/gtg5i/apple_vs_sams...

The image is wrong. According to a post in the reddit thread, as well as Samsung's own website, Samsung unveiled that phone in February 2007, one month after Apple showed the iPhone.

Looking at Samsung's photos, I do not see how it's possible for anyone to say that Apple was copying them. Samsung probably can make a case on the home screen format(4 icons, bottom row, etc.), but the overall design is quite different. The F700 has a physical keyboard.

http://www.samsung.com/us/news/newsRead.do?news_seq=3516

Re: Apple sues Samsung: a complete lawsuit analysis

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Post by r00fus »

hesdeadjim wrote: post #5

This has to make things a little awkward considering Samsung has been fabbing Apple's mobile chips.

It's only confusing if you think this lawsuit is meant to be won on merits and not to primarily annoy a competitor into not competing.

It's placing pressure on Samsung to "toe the line" and "deliver our components, not your own products".

Re: Apple sues Samsung: a complete lawsuit analysis

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Post by goatforce5 »

kenjackson wrote: post #12
hesdeadjim wrote: post #5

This has to make things a little awkward considering Samsung has been fabbing Apple's mobile chips.

And displays and Flash. I recall at one point Samsung made 40% of the world's Flash memory.

I'd have to assume that Apple was really comfortable with the terms of their component supply contracts with Samsung, and that Samsung can't find a way to get out of them at this point.

Re: Apple sues Samsung: a complete lawsuit analysis

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Post by eli »

patrickaljord wrote: post #8

Interesting post from reddit about trade dress http://i.imgur.com/aLGOQ.jpg from http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/gtg5i/apple_vs_sams...

The LG Prada is perhaps a better comparison? http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_ke850_prada-3d-spin-1828.php

Looks very similar from the outside, and was definitely demoed before the iPhone.

In fact, from a 2007 report:

> One analyst asked the executives whether they plan to sue Apple as some reports have suggested over design similarities with the iPhone: LG executive Chang Ma replied: "Should we? (laughs) Obviously, we are introducing this touch screen first [since the Prada phone will be available in Europe next month]... we are much more faster realizing and launching products in the market [than Apple]. But LG is targeting a different customer than Apple."

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/lg-prada-shine-windows-m...

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Post by warfangle »

kenjackson wrote: post #2

Here's the LG Prada: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LG_prada_phone_private_pic... http://mobile.engadget.com/2006/12/15/the-lg-ke850-touchable... Announced Dec 2006. I'm not saying Samsung copied this phone, but if I was LG, I'd start to wonder. BTW, best article on the issue to date.

Definitely interesting, as the iPhone was first unveiled in Jan '07.

Re: Apple sues Samsung: a complete lawsuit analysis

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Post by warfangle »

r00fus wrote: post #13
hesdeadjim wrote: post #5

This has to make things a little awkward considering Samsung has been fabbing Apple's mobile chips.

It's only confusing if you think this lawsuit is meant to be won on merits and not to primarily annoy a competitor into not competing. It's placing pressure on Samsung to "toe the line" and "deliver our components, not your own products".

Makes me wonder how many patents of Samsung's that Apple is infringing upon?

Re: Apple sues Samsung: a complete lawsuit analysis

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Post by kenjackson »

warfangle wrote: post #17
r00fus wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's only confusing if you think this lawsuit is meant to be won on merits and not to primarily annoy a competitor into not competing. It's placing pressure on Samsung to "toe the line" and "deliver our components, not your own products".

Makes me wonder how many patents of Samsung's that Apple is infringing upon?

I don't know, but when you see lawsuits like this it becomes clear why companies patent everything they can. It would suck to be in a position where Apple could come after you and you have no response. You have to have a patent portfolio to fight people attacking you.

Re: Apple sues Samsung: a complete lawsuit analysis

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Post by cooldeal »

goatforce5 wrote: post #14
kenjackson wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And displays and Flash. I recall at one point Samsung made 40% of the world's Flash memory.

I'd have to assume that Apple was really comfortable with the terms of their component supply contracts with Samsung, and that Samsung can't find a way to get out of them at this point.

Why would Samsung want to get out of the contracts when they're making billions off them?

Re: Apple sues Samsung: a complete lawsuit analysis

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Post by rsynnott »

kenjackson wrote: post #12
hesdeadjim wrote: post #5

This has to make things a little awkward considering Samsung has been fabbing Apple's mobile chips.

And displays and Flash. I recall at one point Samsung made 40% of the world's Flash memory.

Samsung doesn't make the iPhone or iPad display; LG does. There may at this point be others; certainly, people have noticed minor performance differences in some newer iPhone 4 displays.
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