Why is Apple acting like an asshole? • Hacker News Board

Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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Post by dmitriid » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 7:46 AM UTC

> The next major release of iOS is announced to be shipping on Friday (in a few days) or sometime the following week, like the next Tuesday.

> But today, Apple announced that iOS 14 is shipping tomorrow.

So... the only difference is it's not "few days" but "one day"? For an OS update everyone knew was coming because "for as long as I can remember it goes something like this"?

What's the assholery?

Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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Post by harpratap » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 7:46 AM UTC

lanevorockz wrote: post #6

Apple greatest asset is the accessibility to a large market. In return to the loyalty of the clients they do an excellent work in validating apps for isolation, privacy and vetting. Technology is not magic and bugs exist, so Apple chose this methodology for their store. If companies are able to hijack this process by uploading assets it could be easy to exploit. We are talking about a personal phone not a remote comp…

Privacy and user freedom are not two mutually exclusive things. You can have both at the same time too.

Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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Post by xenospn » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 7:46 AM UTC

No one said you HAVE to update your app to iOS14 on day 1. Also, the beta versions have been out for months. If you’re not ready, it’s your fault.

Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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Post by calcifer » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 7:46 AM UTC

lanevorockz wrote: post #6

Apple greatest asset is the accessibility to a large market. In return to the loyalty of the clients they do an excellent work in validating apps for isolation, privacy and vetting. Technology is not magic and bugs exist, so Apple chose this methodology for their store. If companies are able to hijack this process by uploading assets it could be easy to exploit. We are talking about a personal phone not a remote comp…

This comment doesn't seem to have anything to do with the article, which is about the short launch window for iOS 14 and issues surrounding that. Are you simply reacting to the title?

Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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Post by tracer4201 » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 7:47 AM UTC

The profane language really isn’t necessary. It would be helpful to understand what portion of apps are negatively impacted by the new iOS version. If it’s insignificant, there’s really no strong incentive for Apple to specifically set a launch date with developers.

It’s besides the point by the profanity just weakens the argument. Presumably the iOS beta has been out long enough that developers could have pushed out an update if their app seriously breaks with the update.

Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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Post by mrsuprawsm » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 7:49 AM UTC

akmarinov wrote: post #4

kylec wrote: post #2

Why is this an issue? Apps built with the old SDK will still work on iOS 14, and you can continue to submit apps built with the old SDK for a while. Nothing says your app _has_ to be built with the new SDK on day 1.

Some apps (Pokemon Go) just crash on launch on 14 without updates.

Surely the developers had the 3 month beta period to identify these issues, and ship fixes, right? As far as I understand it, it's possible to ship fixes for a new iOS version before that iOS version actually launches, and indeed that's the idea of the beta period.

Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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Post by newbie578 » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 7:49 AM UTC

Man, don't you understand that you are not allowed to critize Apple here. Don't touch my walled garden and (fake) privacy.

iOS 14 has introduced home screen widgets, it is a game-changer man, it has only been on Android for like 7 years :)

Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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Post by wernercd » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 7:51 AM UTC

Acting?

Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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Post by risyachka » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 7:52 AM UTC

akmarinov wrote: post #4

kylec wrote: post #2

Why is this an issue? Apps built with the old SDK will still work on iOS 14, and you can continue to submit apps built with the old SDK for a while. Nothing says your app _has_ to be built with the new SDK on day 1.

Some apps (Pokemon Go) just crash on launch on 14 without updates.

IOS 14 for developers was available for a long time. Also this is a norm with all SDKs, engines, tools etc - new versions always have new bugs that will be fixed in updates.

Especially considering that only a small percent usually updates to new version of OS in first few days.

Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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Post by adwmayer » Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 7:52 AM UTC

akmarinov wrote: post #4

kylec wrote: post #2

Why is this an issue? Apps built with the old SDK will still work on iOS 14, and you can continue to submit apps built with the old SDK for a while. Nothing says your app _has_ to be built with the new SDK on day 1.

Some apps (Pokemon Go) just crash on launch on 14 without updates.

This isn't an sdk issue, it's a purposeful decision by Niantic to not support beta OSes to avoid potential exploits. Fwiw it finally works now with the 14 GM that went out :)