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A whistleblower says Facebook ignored global political manipulation

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Re: A whistleblower says Facebook ignored global political manipulation

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I can see it in my least tech savvy, least educated friends. As Facebook users they seem to be radicalising the longer I leave them to the devices.

But what’s the alternative?

If people want family & friends social media, where to go?

Aren’t the open/alternative platforms just as open to abusive, if not more so, as no-one like the whistleblower is even hired when it comes to open platforms?

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~~Can we get the actual report Zhang published, rather than a BuzzFeed link? I mean is Buzz Feed really considered news?~~ EDIT: I retract my comment, I was unaware of the distinct nature of Buzzfeed news from Buzzfeed proper,

They mention this in the writeup: it’s not going to be made public (yet). Also BuzzFeed News does real journalism, despite the BuzzFeed origin of their group.

I’ll concur buzzfeed news do excellent journalism and should be considered distinct.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/buzzfeednews/about-buzz...

From their Award page:

BuzzFeed News is a two-time finalist for the Pulitzer Prize: for a stunning probe that proved operatives with apparent ties to Vladimir Putin have engaged in a targeted killing campaign against his perceived enemies on British and American soil, and an exposé of a dispute-settlement process used by multinational corporations to undermine domestic regulations and gut environmental laws at the expense of poorer nations.

Our reporting has also won a George Polk Award, National Magazine Award, Livingston Award, Society of Editors Press Award, National Association of Black Journalists Award, National Association of Hispanic Journalists Award, Mirror Award, GLAAD Media Award, London Press Club Award....

Re: A whistleblower says Facebook ignored global political manipulation

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Do any of the major platforms really have a handle on how to deal with these challenges? I'm not excusing the lack of oversight. But most companies that grow this quickly are a complete cluster inside. Imagine having to battle well funded state actors on top of trying to build a business. Again, not saying Facebook shouldn't be held accountable. But it's always easy from the outside looking in.

They likely will lose lots of money if they solve the problem, so they're not likely to do much about it unless forced to.

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What is the public interest in publishing her name after she has expressed concerns about her safety? Shame on Buzzfeed. "In her post, Zhang said she did not want it to go public for fear of disrupting Facebook’s efforts to prevent problems around the upcoming 2020 US presidential election, and due to concerns about her own safety. BuzzFeed News is publishing parts of her memo that are clearly in the public interest.…

She's not exactly going at lengths to hide her identity, I'm watching it blow up on twitter with her named by full name.

Before or after Buzzfeed doxxed her?

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~~Can we get the actual report Zhang published, rather than a BuzzFeed link? I mean is Buzz Feed really considered news?~~ EDIT: I retract my comment, I was unaware of the distinct nature of Buzzfeed news from Buzzfeed proper,

Regarding publishing the entire memo they stated:

>BuzzFeed News is not publishing Zhang’s full memo because it contains personal information. This story includes full excerpts when possible to provide appropriate context.

Re: A whistleblower says Facebook ignored global political manipulation

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I know someone who got extra severance conditional on non-disparagement when leaving a pretty modest Canadian tech company. Is this a more rare event than I thought?

It's pretty rare. Never have I ever met anyone who had or would sign such an agreement. Given my income bracket, I should have by now if it was merely uncommon. Then again, maybe not admitting to the agreement is part of the agreement. Insidious.

Worked in three companies and in all of them every single fired (as was the case here) individual was offered severance. Usually it's 2 months + 2 weeks per year of work but higher severances are routinely offered if company feels person can be a problem. 64k (4-5 months of pay) is essentially go away money - not FB trying to really hush somebody. Even baseless rejected EEOC complain will cost more to resolve.

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>Zhang said she turned down a $64,000 severance package from the company to avoid signing a nondisparagement agreement. You really have to ask yourself what kind of place it is you're working for and what you're building, if a totally regular employee basically is paid hush-money to not speak about their job. This isn't a private business any more, it's the mafia. People talk a lot about the culture of free speech an…

I know someone who got extra severance conditional on non-disparagement when leaving a pretty modest Canadian tech company. Is this a more rare event than I thought?

Yes, grandfather comment is overly dramatic.

What you’re describing is the status quo termination agreement that companies require you sign in exchange for a severance payout. When people don’t have first-hand knowledge of unethical and dramatically harmful behavior by the company, and often even when they do, they sign it because they want the severance. What’s unusual in this case is not only did Sophie courageously speak up internally and now publicly, she selflessly forfeited her severance payout.

Re: A whistleblower says Facebook ignored global political manipulation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty rare. Never have I ever met anyone who had or would sign such an agreement. Given my income bracket, I should have by now if it was merely uncommon. Then again, maybe not admitting to the agreement is part of the agreement. Insidious.

Worked in three companies and in all of them every single fired (as was the case here) individual was offered severance. Usually it's 2 months + 2 weeks per year of work but higher severances are routinely offered if company feels person can be a problem. 64k (4-5 months of pay) is essentially go away money - not FB trying to really hush somebody. Even baseless rejected EEOC complain will cost more to resolve.

I was not talking about "severance" per se, but about a non-disparaging agreements. I would agree that severance is typical.

That being said, California, Oregon, Washington State, Georgia, getting 4-5 month's pay as severance? That doesn't even make sense from a business perspective, imo.

If you're small enough you are face to facing investors, everyone has experience with volatile employees. If you're larger, you don't care about a single player anyway. That's just my experience.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know someone who got extra severance conditional on non-disparagement when leaving a pretty modest Canadian tech company. Is this a more rare event than I thought?

It's pretty rare. Never have I ever met anyone who had or would sign such an agreement. Given my income bracket, I should have by now if it was merely uncommon. Then again, maybe not admitting to the agreement is part of the agreement. Insidious.

It’s not rare, it’s common. Especially in the world of social media where people can leave reviews, etc.
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