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New species of “supergiant” isopod uncovered

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Re: New species of “supergiant” isopod uncovered

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Could we leave these animals out in the ocean please? I know that there will be people that want to eat them because it gives them some kind of superpower you‘ve never heard of. But if you look at the year 2020 you may know that wild species can give you wild diseases. Or maybe we just limit interaction with these species only to scientists ghat know how to handle them.

Re: New species of “supergiant” isopod uncovered

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post #8

> The team says that the discovery is an example of deep-sea gigantism Are there theories about this phenomenon? Does this explain the historically atypical size of the dinosaurs? Why doesn't it continue to happen? For example, why aren't there giant robins (birds) or tiny ones? Is there not a single eco-system ever where this would be an advantage? From another article on the same discovery

It does, generally on islands: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_gigantism Humans tend to exterminate them.

I think that’s an over generalization. The La Brea tarpit types were extinguished due to climate change. It’s also postulated mammoths and such were also affected by climate change, food availability and hunting. None the less, before humans came on the scene large animals came and went.

Of course if they had survived to even antiquity, yes, we’d probably have hunted them to extinction.

Re: New species of “supergiant” isopod uncovered

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> The team says that the discovery is an example of deep-sea gigantism Are there theories about this phenomenon? Does this explain the historically atypical size of the dinosaurs? Why doesn't it continue to happen? For example, why aren't there giant robins (birds) or tiny ones? Is there not a single eco-system ever where this would be an advantage? From another article on the same discovery

I'd expect giants to be more vulnerable to changes in the ecosystem. A new species is introduced that creates competition and the giants can't adapt to a new niche.

I imagine deep-sea is an ecosystem that doesn't get disrupted often. Little new introduction of species. Little human intervention.

Re: New species of “supergiant” isopod uncovered

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> The new giant isopod species was described from two specimens, ... 950 and 1,260 metres, during the South Java Deep Sea Biodiversity Expedition 2018 If you skim-read the article, you might end up with a very different picture in your head.

They're still pretty big, but not destroying Tokyo anytime soon.

Re: New species of “supergiant” isopod uncovered

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post #8

> The team says that the discovery is an example of deep-sea gigantism Are there theories about this phenomenon? Does this explain the historically atypical size of the dinosaurs? Why doesn't it continue to happen? For example, why aren't there giant robins (birds) or tiny ones? Is there not a single eco-system ever where this would be an advantage? From another article on the same discovery

It does, generally on islands: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_gigantism Humans tend to exterminate them.

And also in environments with high oxygen concentration. At one point dragonflies were the size of cats (the cause is different from deep sea gigantism).

Re: New species of “supergiant” isopod uncovered

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always been fascinated by pill bugs, also known as "Armadillidiidae" [1] they are such cool creatures. I don't know why, but the fact that they are land-dwelling crustaceans was just interesting to me. I had no idea something like this size and related existed in the sea! Incredible! I wonder now what the evolutionary tree looks like. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armadillidiidae

Order Isopoda [1] on Wikipedia if anyone else is interested. Edit: Corrected Family -> Order - oops! Thank you pvaldes. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopoda

Isopoda is an Order. This is in family Cirolanidae, so it has much smaller cousins in each beach.

It seems there is an opportunity here, crouching like a cat, to dedicate one of this new species to Hayao Miyazaki. Bathynomus ohmu seems an pretty convenient name also. Maybe the next.

Re: New species of “supergiant” isopod uncovered

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> The new giant isopod species was described from two specimens, ... 950 and 1,260 metres, during the South Java Deep Sea Biodiversity Expedition 2018 If you skim-read the article, you might end up with a very different picture in your head.

You missed an important part of the sentence:

> collected off the southern coast of West Java in Indonesia, from a depth of between 950 and 1,260 metres

the specimens were not 1km long.

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