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Re: Northwestern Point of the Lake of the Woods

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Post by TimSchumann »

sandworm101 wrote: post #4

There is a great youtube video on this and similar can-US border irregularities. Search for "Canada-US no touching zone". There is another exclave near vancouver. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMkYlIA7mgw

Peace Arch Park is the place you mentioned on the border crossing between Bellingham, WA and Vancouver, BC.

A good friend and his wife, who is Canadian, are really grateful for that loophole. They were able to meet their newborn niece recently because of that park, despite the border being closed.

Re: Northwestern Point of the Lake of the Woods

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Post by temp0826 »

sandworm101 wrote: post #4

There is a great youtube video on this and similar can-US border irregularities. Search for "Canada-US no touching zone". There is another exclave near vancouver. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMkYlIA7mgw

My favorite border dispute is Hans Island-

https://freehansisland.com/

Re: Northwestern Point of the Lake of the Woods

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Post by dan_quixote »

TimSchumann wrote: post #11
sandworm101 wrote: post #4

There is a great youtube video on this and similar can-US border irregularities. Search for "Canada-US no touching zone". There is another exclave near vancouver. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMkYlIA7mgw

Peace Arch Park is the place you mentioned on the border crossing between Bellingham, WA and Vancouver, BC. A good friend and his wife, who is Canadian, are really grateful for that loophole. They were able to meet their newborn niece recently because of that park, despite the border being closed.

sandworm101 was referring to Point Roberts about 10 miles west of Peace Arch Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Roberts,_Washington

Re: Northwestern Point of the Lake of the Woods

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Post by 52-6F-62 »

aulneau_ wrote: post #6

Funny to see this on hn, I worked at a canoeing camp in Lake of the woods, and as such have spent a good amount of time in the northwest angle. I've even sung a rendition of proud Mary in the northern most bar of the contiguous US.

Can't speak for those Muskeg-walking Manitobans, but we still like Creedence here in Ontario

Re: Northwestern Point of the Lake of the Woods

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Post by TimSchumann »

dan_quixote wrote: post #14
TimSchumann wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Peace Arch Park is the place you mentioned on the border crossing between Bellingham, WA and Vancouver, BC. A good friend and his wife, who is Canadian, are really grateful for that loophole. They were able to meet their newborn niece recently because of that park, despite the border being closed.

sandworm101 was referring to Point Roberts about 10 miles west of Peace Arch Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Roberts,_Washington

Actually re-watched the video and realized that not ten minutes ago.

It is nice that places like Peace Arch Park exist though.

Re: Northwestern Point of the Lake of the Woods

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Post by Stratoscope »

jatsign wrote: post #3

Reminds of software development estimation. You start out with a rough "ballpark" idea of the task and say it will take about 10 days. Then you actually start the task and realize how screwed you are. And then your manager thinks you're an idiot because you said 10 days and it's 150 years later and required a treaty with Canada to resolve.

There is a great story on Quora related to this:

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-software-development-task-esti...

Re: Northwestern Point of the Lake of the Woods

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Post by mauvehaus »

Wolfenstein98k wrote: post #7

As someone whose line of work is land titles and surveying, this is particularly interesting! Good find.

Would love an AMA from you. Property law is surely some of the oldest law, and how we define and understand boundaries and ownership must come with so may interesting dives into old laws, deeds, titles, etc.

Re: Northwestern Point of the Lake of the Woods

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Post by ed25519FUUU »

jatsign wrote: post #3

Reminds of software development estimation. You start out with a rough "ballpark" idea of the task and say it will take about 10 days. Then you actually start the task and realize how screwed you are. And then your manager thinks you're an idiot because you said 10 days and it's 150 years later and required a treaty with Canada to resolve.

> Reminds of software development estimation. You start out with a rough "ballpark" idea of the task and say it will take about 10 days. Then you actually start the task and realize how screwed you are.

Every time I wrap up my quarterly planning, I'm always reminded of this and how futile it is to make ballpark suggestions when the only thing you have is a one or two sentence idea.

Re: Northwestern Point of the Lake of the Woods

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Post by acwan93 »

There's a number of irregularities between the US and Canadian border.

Johnny Harris, who used to (still is? seems unclear) film the Vox series "Borders", did a video on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvvicd07zCs

Basically, the border is largely the 49th parallel and some seemingly arbitrary lines on the East Coast and Alaska. But since they were done in the 18th/19th century without regard for existing settlements, it leads to some crazy enclaves and border towns:

-Point Roberts, WA [1]

-Piney Pinecreek Border Airport (K48Y) [2]

-Hyder, AK [3]

-Estcourt Station, ME [4]

-Derby Line, VT [5]

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Roberts,_Washington

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piney_Pinecreek_Border_Airport

[3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyder,_Alaska

[4]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estcourt_Station,_Maine

[5]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_Line,_Vermont

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