In no other domain is implicit, cross-arena tracking by default acceptable. Computers _should be_ no exception.
Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobile ad market
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#12I would love to have been a fly on the wall in that meeting. Having already pissed off the advertisers, Apple felt threatened enough to turn around and alienate its power users. Couldn't have been an easy decision...
They certainly still get to claim they are focused on privacy even if they decide to kick the can a few more times, since the notifications/controls will come “eventually”.
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#13Zuck probably begged Tim
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#14This is unfortunate. Adtech is a cancer. We don't need to give it time to adapt, we need to shut it down.
If you just flat out ban shit without nuanced understanding, you hurt people more than help. Facebook will pivot, they will charge people for video or gaming or oculus. But there will be no shopify, no tv shows, no radio shows and no DTC companies which number in the thousands and will eventually be in the millions. So just becuase you have some vendetta against facebook, should everyone else suffer for your stupidity?
Re: Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobile ad market
#15This is unfortunate. Adtech is a cancer. We don't need to give it time to adapt, we need to shut it down.
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#17One thing that removes a lot of credibility from Apple's "for the good of the user" communication on this is that they broke out the personalization for their own ad network as an option, put it in a different location, and made it opt-out instead of opt-in. https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2020/08/07/apple-a...
I feel like taking billions from Google to be the default search engine on iOS also did that
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#18Bad Apple. What was Facebook going to do? Pull out of iOS? They had all the power.
0: https://www.macrumors.com/2020/08/28/apple-blocked-facebook-...
Re: Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobile ad market
#19I understand why they delayed, and it may be the right decision. However, tracking-by-default is a dark pattern in software, and it needs to be driven out. In no other domain is implicit, cross-arena tracking by default acceptable. Computers _should be_ no exception.
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#20This is unfortunate. Adtech is a cancer. We don't need to give it time to adapt, we need to shut it down.
The only cancer is people spewing compost without any depth to their thinking. Adtech has powered things since dawn of civilization. Here educate yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_advertising If you just flat out ban shit without nuanced understanding, you hurt people more than help. Facebook will pivot, they will charge people for video or gaming or oculus. But there will be no shopify, no tv shows,…
Absolutely. We should have understanding and we ban shit that is harmful.