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Cokeheads slip AI onto Yahoo front page

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Re: Cokeheads slip AI onto Yahoo front page

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Post by nickb »

jraines wrote: post #7
nickb wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not linkbaiting. If you check the article's title, you will see that it is unchanged. The title comes from this part: "Agarwal calls it Coke for short, and his fellow researchers are affectionately known as Cokeheads." Also, I don't like editorializing and injecting my opinion and pg doesn't as well (I'm guessing he's the one who reverts headlines to their original state when they're editorialized). I've changed…

I don't go to the Register for news, so their linkbait headlines aren't a problem for me until someone submits them here, even if it's unchanged. So I will complain here. Changing a "curiosity" headline to make it clear what the article is about is not editorializing (except in the most literal sense, so let me preempt any pedants on that point) or injecting opinion. Example: "Yahoo! Researchers develop algorithms to…

pg has reduced the length of headlines few times now. It now stands at 90 chars. Also, pg has changed few of my headlines that I amended with some more info from the article and has reverted them back to the original. What do I think? I think pg is right on this issue. Rewriting headlines is a slippery slope since we all have our biases. I'd rather read the original headline and make up my own mind on the issue than to read what nickb or jraines thinks this article is about.

What you're asking for would be better served with a blog and not a link aggregation site.

Finally, I'm not getting paid for this work and I don't have much free time. Personally, I don't wanna waste my time trying to think up headlines since that's not my job.

Re: Cokeheads slip AI onto Yahoo front page

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Post by giardini »

Decades ago we used Kalman filtering in naval navigation systems - it was well-established engineering then (Rudolf E. Kalman developed his filter in 1960). The original article's title is somewhat misleading in that Kalman filtering isn't usually considered to be AI.

But it's very nice to see this article anyway, if only to know that those old boat filters are creating Yahoo's home pages. Hey, it might even be the same code!8-)) [Tip to Yahoo: Speed 'er up to 23 knots and, if you start getting significant outliers, you've got a rounding problem in your matrix routines.]

Re: Cokeheads slip AI onto Yahoo front page

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Post by giardini »

Decades ago we used Kalman filtering in naval navigation systems - it was well-established engineering then (Rudolf E. Kalman developed his filter in 1960). The original article's title is somewhat misleading in that Kalman filtering isn't usually considered to be AI.

But it's very nice to see this article anyway, if only to know that those old boat filters are creating Yahoo's home pages. Hey, it might even be the same code!8-)) [Tip to Yahoo: Speed 'er up to 23 knots and, if you start getting significant outliers, you've got a rounding problem in your matrix routines.]

Re: Cokeheads slip AI onto Yahoo front page

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Post by shaunxcode »

jimbokun wrote: post #14
t0pj wrote: post #2

And when the speech was over, McCarthy spoke up from the auditorium's front row. "I'm a little puzzled," he said. "What does this have to do with AI?" I love you, John!

Anyone know what the reply was?

The article didn't give the direct response but quoted another speaker at the conference who said "Over the past 50 years, we've lowered the bar for what we consider AI," -Stephan Nusser, senior manager of the User-Focused Systems research group.

Re: Cokeheads slip AI onto Yahoo front page

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Post by SingAlong »

nickb wrote: post #11
jraines wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't go to the Register for news, so their linkbait headlines aren't a problem for me until someone submits them here, even if it's unchanged. So I will complain here. Changing a "curiosity" headline to make it clear what the article is about is not editorializing (except in the most literal sense, so let me preempt any pedants on that point) or injecting opinion. Example: "Yahoo! Researchers develop algorithms to…

pg has reduced the length of headlines few times now. It now stands at 90 chars. Also, pg has changed few of my headlines that I amended with some more info from the article and has reverted them back to the original. What do I think? I think pg is right on this issue. Rewriting headlines is a slippery slope since we all have our biases. I'd rather read the original headline and make up my own mind on the issue than…

Peace! Peace! All of us...

Let's stop here with a smile.

Anyway... Back to the topic. The news thing...

Just a couple of days back I read about SocialBrowse here. The idea was cool(it did sound to me like a live and interactive version of Hacker News). It would be interesting if Yahoo tries to deliver headlines that way... like a popup on my taskbar whenever a 'friend' of mine likes a news headline. I mentioned friend in quotes because I mean in terms of the 'followers', like in twitter. I can then follow the person if I like the news he/she reads.

Re: Cokeheads slip AI onto Yahoo front page

#18

Post by apathy »

shaunxcode wrote: post #15
jimbokun wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone know what the reply was?

The article didn't give the direct response but quoted another speaker at the conference who said "Over the past 50 years, we've lowered the bar for what we consider AI," -Stephan Nusser, senior manager of the User-Focused Systems research group.

Which is long for "not much, but it sounds good".

Maybe they can tack an '-omics' on to the end of it somehow.

Re: Cokeheads slip AI onto Yahoo front page

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Post by LogicHoleFlaw »

giardini wrote: post #12

Decades ago we used Kalman filtering in naval navigation systems - it was well-established engineering then (Rudolf E. Kalman developed his filter in 1960). The original article's title is somewhat misleading in that Kalman filtering isn't usually considered to be AI. But it's very nice to see this article anyway, if only to know that those old boat filters are creating Yahoo's home pages. Hey, it might even be the s…

One of my favorite stories from my grandfather was how he used Fourier transforms to calculate the weight of cotton on the fly as it was being processed in the machines he developed. This was high technology in the 60s!

Re: Cokeheads slip AI onto Yahoo front page

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Post by jraines »

SingAlong wrote: post #16
nickb wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

pg has reduced the length of headlines few times now. It now stands at 90 chars. Also, pg has changed few of my headlines that I amended with some more info from the article and has reverted them back to the original. What do I think? I think pg is right on this issue. Rewriting headlines is a slippery slope since we all have our biases. I'd rather read the original headline and make up my own mind on the issue than…

Peace! Peace! All of us... Let's stop here with a smile. Anyway... Back to the topic. The news thing... Just a couple of days back I read about SocialBrowse here. The idea was cool(it did sound to me like a live and interactive version of Hacker News). It would be interesting if Yahoo tries to deliver headlines that way... like a popup on my taskbar whenever a 'friend' of mine likes a news headline. I mentioned frien…

I thought it was a pretty civil exchange. All of nickb's points are fair and valid. Just wanted to put in my 2 cents.

I guess 'linkbait' is kind of an inflammatory term, especially on a site with karma points, but it ought not to be.

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