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Brilliant idea to recentralize the decentralized internet. Edit: With more information coming in, I don't think the current issue is specific to Cloudflare. FWIW I'm having zero issues in mid-US.
Brilliant idea to recentralize the decentralized internet. Edit: With more information coming in, I don't think the current issue is specific to Cloudflare. FWIW I'm having zero issues in mid-US.
What is better: If only I go down and my competitors are still up, or if everybody goes down? ;)
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Aren't their services decentralized?
I think the parent means centralizing in one single company
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I think the parent means centralizing in one single company
But if the issue is with transit (as it appears to be) and Cloudflare peer with multiple transit providers - how is it worse? Of course in other circumstances a single dominant player may be an issue - but it doesn’t look to be the issue here - and if anything their level of peering would allow faster recovery than other smaller content hosts (used in the loosest sense) which may have less peering.
Brilliant idea to recentralize the decentralized internet. Edit: With more information coming in, I don't think the current issue is specific to Cloudflare. FWIW I'm having zero issues in mid-US.
Well, for most smaller websites using something like Cloudflare means they are more decentralized, more easily, than less (e.g. instead of using their single source of failure own server).
@dang or another mod, would be better to link to https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/outages/2020-August/013187... as this isn't a Cloudflare issue.
Brilliant idea to recentralize the decentralized internet. Edit: With more information coming in, I don't think the current issue is specific to Cloudflare. FWIW I'm having zero issues in mid-US.
Well, for most smaller websites using something like Cloudflare means they are more decentralized, more easily, than less (e.g. instead of using their single source of failure own server).
Small sites don't really need that decentralization, sure it's nice that it's easy but this isn't the problem.
The problem is that in aggregate you end up with an internet with a single point of failure.
And even if as it is now isn't a big problem, who's to say that one day it is a huge problem?
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Mandatory comment on Cloudflare discussions, right?
shouldnt it be?
This isn't a Cloudflare-specific issue. Level 3/CenturyLink are in trouble. Affecting other providers (see, for example, Fastly's Status page: https://status.fastly.com/ ). @dang or another mod, would be better to link to https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/outages/2020-August/013187... as this isn't a Cloudflare issue.
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shouldnt it be?
It’s a point, but it’s repeated ad nauseum in every thread. It’s the nature of having CDNs or cloud services in the first place. If you want to outsource your uptime, you sacrifice certain freedoms you had in exchange for hypothetically lower costs for operations.