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China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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To those that believe that they would not have turned a blind eye during WWII to the systematic extermination of Jews, the current generation has been given a similar challenge. Where is your cancel-culture now? How will our children think of us?

Cancel culture never had any attention of pushing forward any reasonable change. It was mostly a tool for people to pretend that they somehow had an lasting positive impact on the world in the most convenient way. Boycotting goods made in China and substituting them with those made elsewhere is not as convenient. So cancel culture people and pretty much everyone else will pretend and argue such a measure will have no impact on the political situation. Maybe we should point out that apartheid in South Africa wasnt solved by good intentioned dialogue but through economic embargoes. But that argument will be ignored because its so inconvenient to not use goods made in China. You know its so easy to donate a paltry sum of money while looking at the photo of a poor African/Indian/Bangladeshi/Mexican kid and then feel great about ones magnanimity than to take the hard steps to curb an actual menace and human rights violation.

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans killed a million muslims and destroyed their homeland. China imprisoned a million muslims and put them in factories. Stop being so dramatic.

a million? really?

Probably correct estimate considering all the American wars in the middle east.

Still annoying comparison and whataboutism.

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Karl Marx on religion “Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.“

A popular song: Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion, too

The CCP is simply following a core tenant of communism. From the perspective of the ideology, they are freeing people from religion.

A much more important quote, a warning about accepting new ideas that too few heed today as always: “Let us keep our minds open, by all means, as long as that means keeping our sense of perspective and seeking an understanding of the forces which mould the world. But don’t keep your minds so open that your brains fall out! There are still things in this world which are true and things which are false; acts which are right and acts which are wrong, even if there are statesmen who hide their designs under the cloak of high-sounding phrases.”. — Walter Kotschnig November 8, 1939

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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post #10

To those that believe that they would not have turned a blind eye during WWII to the systematic extermination of Jews, the current generation has been given a similar challenge. Where is your cancel-culture now? How will our children think of us?

Some of us don't have much power. I denounced it online several times, that's all I can do. People like Lebron James, who thinks of himself like a freedom fighter, when he criticized China he ended up saying he was misinformed and he wasn't educated about the issue. He loves the money coming from China more than anything else. I want him to be reminded by this. He put his millions before human lives, just like some n…

We all have power though very little but we do. Unfortunately it is scattered. The more people care about the issue the more visible it will become

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans killed a million muslims and destroyed their homeland. China imprisoned a million muslims and put them in factories. Stop being so dramatic.

a million? really?

Just to address the comment above (it has been flagged and I can no longer reply directly). This is not a debate of America vs China. This is a debate of morality. We should not reserve judgement only for "bad guys". The reason China gets a free pass on this is because they are economically valuable to other countries. Chaining up pregnant women is bad, by all nations at all times.

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans killed a million muslims and destroyed their homeland. China imprisoned a million muslims and put them in factories. Stop being so dramatic.

a million? really?

Yes, also impoverished and displaced several million people.

Consider the impact of all the regime change operations undertaken under the patronage of the United States in countries like Iraq, Lybia, Syria and Yemen, as well as devastating effects of economic sanctions on Iran, Syria and other nations.

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of us don't have much power. I denounced it online several times, that's all I can do. People like Lebron James, who thinks of himself like a freedom fighter, when he criticized China he ended up saying he was misinformed and he wasn't educated about the issue. He loves the money coming from China more than anything else. I want him to be reminded by this. He put his millions before human lives, just like some n…

We all have power though very little but we do. Unfortunately it is scattered. The more people care about the issue the more visible it will become

That's why I don't shut up.

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Definitely bad and needs international attention. China’s soft power will ensure that most countries won’t go beyond the usual virtue signaling. Also keep in mind that the USA still has the most imprisoned people in the world by a large margin: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarce... https://www.prisonstudies.org/sites/default/files/resources/...

Do USA imprisonment do organ harvesting? Perhaps the current imprisonment really is just a front to solve organs shortage.

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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To those that believe that they would not have turned a blind eye during WWII to the systematic extermination of Jews, the current generation has been given a similar challenge. Where is your cancel-culture now? How will our children think of us?

Yeah, I'm realizing that it's all about geopolitics and power, not about cultural ideas.

And it only gets worse from here.
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