I'm going to be that commenter. Given Google's history I want to mark this date so we can start the countdown clock.
Jetpack Compose Alpha is released
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Re: Jetpack Compose Alpha is released
#12I'm going to be that commenter. Given Google's history I want to mark this date so we can start the countdown clock.
Compose is very necessary to remain competitive in the mobile apps landscape. Google is also behind here by about a year, so I expect to see continued strong investment in this area.
Re: Jetpack Compose Alpha is released
#13Name collision? https://wiki.mozilla.org/Jetpack
Re: Jetpack Compose Alpha is released
#14I presume apps built with Jetpack Compose will be smaller than ones built with Flutter?
I'm also curious about what will happen with Flutter in the long term. I mean, Flutter is an SDK, and the other is an UI toolkit, but I don't see how Flutter UI will remain relevant, specially since Jetpack might take over.
Flutter will stay relevant exactly as long as Google believes it is relevant. I'd say the jury is still out on it but IMHO things are looking increasingly like they don't have a winner on their hands in terms of developer adoption. I've yet to encounter a single Flutter app in the wild. I'm not aware of anything mainstream using it.
You can tell a lot by what Google is talking about and what they are not talking about or actively avoiding talking about. Right now they are not talking a lot about Flutter (and even less about Fuchsia). Given the timing, you'd expect them to be full on shipping Flutter everything with the upcoming Android. Not a thing. Not happening at all. What ever they are doing with it, eating their own dog food is not it this year.
They just unceremoniously killed Duo after it was long clear to world + dog that that was the only sensible thing to do after that clearly failed to bring in a lot of new users from more fashionable things like Skype, Facebook Messenger, iMessage, Zoom, or Google's own Meets. Duo never came close to being in the same league. Same thing with Flutter. It's not happening and probably never will. It's a dead horse, they've flogged it for a while, it's not going anywhere. The next logical move is to shelf it.
Jetpack Compose on the other hand looks like it will be the main thing to do Android with this time next year. They are shooting for a release in 2021. 2021 Android will hit Beta probably in Spring. I'd say Jetpack Compse is well on track to release along with that around the same time.
I played with Jetpack Compose a few weeks ago; it's great. It might actually interest me in doing some proper mobile development. The old android SDKs with it's mess of XML, lots of java legacy, convoluted build tooling etc. is not very compelling to me. Jetpack compose does away with pretty much all of that. Good riddance.
Re: Jetpack Compose Alpha is released
#15Name collision? https://wiki.mozilla.org/Jetpack
Or Automattic/WordPress's popular Jetpack plugin, which I thought this was for a moment. (Another Gutenberg-like interface, again?? ;) )
Re: Jetpack Compose Alpha is released
#16I presume apps built with Jetpack Compose will be smaller than ones built with Flutter?
I'm also curious about what will happen with Flutter in the long term. I mean, Flutter is an SDK, and the other is an UI toolkit, but I don't see how Flutter UI will remain relevant, specially since Jetpack might take over.
They'll probably continue to co-exist: Flutter is a Declarative UI product by the Dart team, Jetpack Compose is a Declarative UI product by the Android org. Google has no problem having multiple competing products by different orgs unless one org manages to absorb the other.
Dart has survived this long so that doesn't seem on the cards.
Re: Jetpack Compose Alpha is released
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm also curious about what will happen with Flutter in the long term. I mean, Flutter is an SDK, and the other is an UI toolkit, but I don't see how Flutter UI will remain relevant, specially since Jetpack might take over.
Flutter will stay relevant exactly as long as Google believes it is relevant. I'd say the jury is still out on it but IMHO things are looking increasingly like they don't have a winner on their hands in terms of developer adoption. I've yet to encounter a single Flutter app in the wild. I'm not aware of anything mainstream using it. You can tell a lot by what Google is talking about and what they are not talking abou…
> I've yet to encounter a single Flutter app in the wild. I'm not aware of anything mainstream using it.
In their showcase page they have a bunch of popular apps: https://flutter.dev/showcase
Re: Jetpack Compose Alpha is released
#18I'm going to be that commenter. Given Google's history I want to mark this date so we can start the countdown clock.
This was my very first thought and I worked at Google for a decade. What an awful reputation.
Re: Jetpack Compose Alpha is released
#19Name collision? https://wiki.mozilla.org/Jetpack
Jetpack is used for a lot of different things.
Just today i found out about an upcoming Laravel package called Laravel Jetpack.
Re: Jetpack Compose Alpha is released
#20I'm going to be that commenter. Given Google's history I want to mark this date so we can start the countdown clock.
Compose is very necessary to remain competitive in the mobile apps landscape. Google is also behind here by about a year, so I expect to see continued strong investment in this area.
Compose, and Flutter, and their regular SDK, ...