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Mousemacs – A mouse-driven Emacs

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Re: Mousemacs – A mouse-driven Emacs

#11

Post by murgindrag »

I think this is solving several different problems:

1) I would love to have a better way to manage tabs and multiple files in emacs. This piece seems awesome!

2) Good context menus aren't as important, but a definite win! emacs is useless here. But I'm not sure your context menus are the ones I want.

3) As someone who's used emacs for a long time, I would hate to have my emacs shortcuts replaced by standard ones. I don't want to remap my brain.

I wish there were a way to pick-and-choose.

Re: Mousemacs – A mouse-driven Emacs

#12

Post by hallqv »

I see a potential future use case for this when human-computer interaction will be done through brain interface. Will prolly be easier to integrate with nervous signals from brain to one hand (mouse interaction) compared to two hands (keyboard interaction).

Re: Mousemacs – A mouse-driven Emacs

#13

Post by timonoko »

skocznymroczny wrote: post #10
timonoko wrote: post #2

This is the first step only. I remember in 1995 Stallman wanted Emacs to be "like Microsoft Word" with varying fonts and other formatting shit with hidden Tex-coding. Do it.

So like LyX?

I guess so. Me no Stallman, but I want standard Emacs with graphical Lyx-mode.

Re: Mousemacs – A mouse-driven Emacs

#14

Post by JetSetWilly »

kleiba wrote: post #5

Kinda strange. Emacs is so inherently keyboard-focused that I fail to see the point of this... nor the need for it?!

Emacs has thousands of shortcuts for every conceivable piece of functionality. Personally, I will remember shortcuts for commonly used things - and all the other functionality may as well not exist if it is not easily discoverable.

A gui is a nice way to make a lot of functionality discoverable.

Re: Mousemacs – A mouse-driven Emacs

#17

Post by clircle »

murgindrag wrote: post #11

I think this is solving several different problems: 1) I would love to have a better way to manage tabs and multiple files in emacs. This piece seems awesome! 2) Good context menus aren't as important, but a definite win! emacs is useless here. But I'm not sure your context menus are the ones I want. 3) As someone who's used emacs for a long time, I would hate to have my emacs shortcuts replaced by standard ones. I d…

Looking through the repo, it's a handful of elisp files, so you can pick-and-choose by deleting the stuff you don't want.

Re: Mousemacs – A mouse-driven Emacs

#18

Post by sn41 »

kleiba wrote: post #5

Kinda strange. Emacs is so inherently keyboard-focused that I fail to see the point of this... nor the need for it?!

I have Emacs pinkies - I see the value in similar efforts. I will try this out for some time to see if it actually helps. But muscle memory is a thing for me, it is hard to undo 20 years of Emacs habits.

Re: Mousemacs – A mouse-driven Emacs

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Post by fluffything »

JetSetWilly wrote: post #14
kleiba wrote: post #5

Kinda strange. Emacs is so inherently keyboard-focused that I fail to see the point of this... nor the need for it?!

Emacs has thousands of shortcuts for every conceivable piece of functionality. Personally, I will remember shortcuts for commonly used things - and all the other functionality may as well not exist if it is not easily discoverable. A gui is a nice way to make a lot of functionality discoverable.

> may as well not exist if it is not easily discoverable.

But it is easily discoverable ?

I literally just do M-x and can I get a buffer open with _all_ emacs commands and their explanation, and can do a fuzzy search on that, e.g., so if I type "M-x align re" I get only one command highlighted that can just execute "align-regexp".

That's the main thing I like about emacs. I don't have to remember a million shortcuts, just what things are possible, and then I just type a description of what I want to do and hit enter and that's it.

A GUI / having to use the mouse would push me completely out of "the zone".

Re: Mousemacs – A mouse-driven Emacs

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Post by timonoko »

Pelic4n wrote: post #16
timonoko wrote: post #2

This is the first step only. I remember in 1995 Stallman wanted Emacs to be "like Microsoft Word" with varying fonts and other formatting shit with hidden Tex-coding. Do it.

Stallman is delusional and his push to make Emacs a WYSIWYG editor almost killed it.

Shudup heretic. Stupid half-assed attempts to make X-emacs killed the master's grand vision.
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