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On Blockchain Commit Times: How miners choose Bitcoin transactions [pdf]

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Re: On Blockchain Commit Times: How miners choose Bitcoin transactions [pdf]

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"miners somehowd eviate from the conventional wisdom or the norm, which dictates that transactions are prioritized for inclusion based on the fee-per-byte metric " Miners prioritize by fee-per-byte, except that the on-chain fee only accounts for part of the fee paid for some transactions. Over the years, many services have popped up where you can pay an out-of-band fee to a miner to include your transactions first. O…

Why would people use one of them rather than increase the fee? Is it just for "forgot to do it, I'll pay extra now" situations, or is there a reason to do it anyway?

Re: On Blockchain Commit Times: How miners choose Bitcoin transactions [pdf]

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It makes sense to offer a service for transactions which might not get included to offer a paid accelerator: https://pushtx.btc.com/

I'm not familiar with the space. Could someone explain why uoylj's (sibling) comment is [dead]? Here is the comment's text, for reference: " The Replace-By-Fee flag in Bitcoin is effectively a built-in paid accelerator that covers all miners. I think the reason inefficiencies like this exist is because a lot of wallets either don't implement it or don't have it on by default. "

You can click on the time in the comment and then vouch for it to revive.

Re: On Blockchain Commit Times: How miners choose Bitcoin transactions [pdf]

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post #7

"miners somehowd eviate from the conventional wisdom or the norm, which dictates that transactions are prioritized for inclusion based on the fee-per-byte metric " Miners prioritize by fee-per-byte, except that the on-chain fee only accounts for part of the fee paid for some transactions. Over the years, many services have popped up where you can pay an out-of-band fee to a miner to include your transactions first. O…

Why would people use one of them rather than increase the fee? Is it just for "forgot to do it, I'll pay extra now" situations, or is there a reason to do it anyway?

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Re: On Blockchain Commit Times: How miners choose Bitcoin transactions [pdf]

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post #7

"miners somehowd eviate from the conventional wisdom or the norm, which dictates that transactions are prioritized for inclusion based on the fee-per-byte metric " Miners prioritize by fee-per-byte, except that the on-chain fee only accounts for part of the fee paid for some transactions. Over the years, many services have popped up where you can pay an out-of-band fee to a miner to include your transactions first. O…

Why would people use one of them rather than increase the fee? Is it just for "forgot to do it, I'll pay extra now" situations, or is there a reason to do it anyway?

In some cases, increasing the fee once the transaction has been broadcast is not possible (original transaction doesn't use replace-by-fee OR child-pay-for-parent is not possible)

Re: On Blockchain Commit Times: How miners choose Bitcoin transactions [pdf]

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Not a single word about how literally all these problems only exist because miners try to suck out as much money as they can. Miners are the leeches in the system that blockchain tech claimed to remove. And they suck out millions or dollars every day. If you look at the most popular coins most of them still have these leeches.

Re: On Blockchain Commit Times: How miners choose Bitcoin transactions [pdf]

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post #7

"miners somehowd eviate from the conventional wisdom or the norm, which dictates that transactions are prioritized for inclusion based on the fee-per-byte metric " Miners prioritize by fee-per-byte, except that the on-chain fee only accounts for part of the fee paid for some transactions. Over the years, many services have popped up where you can pay an out-of-band fee to a miner to include your transactions first. O…

Why would people use one of them rather than increase the fee? Is it just for "forgot to do it, I'll pay extra now" situations, or is there a reason to do it anyway?

As someone replied I researched a similar service years ago to get a friend's transaction unstuck. Usually just a credit card payment and the tx id and they mine it.

Re: On Blockchain Commit Times: How miners choose Bitcoin transactions [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not familiar with the space. Could someone explain why uoylj's (sibling) comment is [dead]? Here is the comment's text, for reference: " The Replace-By-Fee flag in Bitcoin is effectively a built-in paid accelerator that covers all miners. I think the reason inefficiencies like this exist is because a lot of wallets either don't implement it or don't have it on by default. "

You can click on the time in the comment and then vouch for it to revive.

I do most of my HN browsing from the app Materialistic, which doesn't support this (or downvoting, or showing scores on comments — most of these are features in my book).
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