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How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by zaro »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #6
zaro wrote: post #5

Why would we need that? I think a lot of people will get immunity the natural way, even now a lot of people are having covid w/o any symptoms at all, and they will have immunity.

Not sure this immunity lasts long? So immunizing a herds-worth in a small period (2 weeks? 2 months?) might be a thing.

I am also not sure how long it lasts but I fail to see why it will matter whether you got the immunity from a vaccine or the normal way.

And let's say everybody get vaccine in 2 weeks period of time, if the immunity doesn't last at least few years what's the point of this mass vaccination then.

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by antioedipus »

DrJones1098 wrote: post #8
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure this immunity lasts long? So immunizing a herds-worth in a small period (2 weeks? 2 months?) might be a thing.

This is false, immunity is strong and long-lasting. The news is trying to sell papers. A vaccine is also an attenuated version of the virus so if becoming immune from the virus doesn't last long it won't last long from a vaccine.

Most of your reply isn’t really correct.

> A vaccine is also an attenuated version of the virus so if becoming immune from the virus doesn't last long it won't last long from a vaccine.

A vaccine can be an attenuated virus, or a piece of mRNA or DNA, or a distinctive viral protein. Which type of vaccine you use+the adjuvants that go with it can result in very different immune responses and efficacy over time.

> This is false, immunity is strong and long-lasting.

Immunity to COVID-19 varies a lot person to person and is poorly understood. It does however appear that many people can be reinfected (especially people who had mild symptoms the first time.)

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by alias-dev »

zaro wrote: post #11
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure this immunity lasts long? So immunizing a herds-worth in a small period (2 weeks? 2 months?) might be a thing.

I am also not sure how long it lasts but I fail to see why it will matter whether you got the immunity from a vaccine or the normal way. And let's say everybody get vaccine in 2 weeks period of time, if the immunity doesn't last at least few years what's the point of this mass vaccination then.

Well people survive vaccination, so there's that

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by groznyyi »

alias-dev wrote: post #14
zaro wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am also not sure how long it lasts but I fail to see why it will matter whether you got the immunity from a vaccine or the normal way. And let's say everybody get vaccine in 2 weeks period of time, if the immunity doesn't last at least few years what's the point of this mass vaccination then.

Well people survive vaccination, so there's that

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Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by xbmcuser »

zaro wrote: post #11
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure this immunity lasts long? So immunizing a herds-worth in a small period (2 weeks? 2 months?) might be a thing.

I am also not sure how long it lasts but I fail to see why it will matter whether you got the immunity from a vaccine or the normal way. And let's say everybody get vaccine in 2 weeks period of time, if the immunity doesn't last at least few years what's the point of this mass vaccination then.

It will stop the spread and die out if everyone gets a vaccination in short period. The virus can't survive outside a host very long so if everyone is immune even for a short period it has no one to spread to. It can be done country by country. Then only people that get the vaccination are allowed inside a country that is immune.

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by Nitrolo »

zaro wrote: post #5

Why would we need that? I think a lot of people will get immunity the natural way, even now a lot of people are having covid w/o any symptoms at all, and they will have immunity.

Because getting infected still carries a significant risk of illness, permanent health problems, or death with it, especially for at-risk groups. Getting vaccinated would sidestep that risk.

And even if everybody did recover, there's the economic cost of an infection. Productivity missed because workers are sick at home, or worse in a hospital being cared for.

I'm not sure what the dollar figures are, but I would not be surprised if vaccinating a large population turns out to be significantly cheaper than having a small percentage of that large population in ICUs for weeks on end.

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

lez wrote: post #12

It should be opt-in AND unvaccinated ppl should never face consequences in the future.

I know some childhood vaccinations are required here, but I’m not aware of any adult vaccinations that are generally required. Possibly flu shots for health care workers?
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