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Wellbeing levels fell with the pandemic but improved under lockdown, data shows

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Re: Wellbeing levels fell with the pandemic but improved under lockdown, data shows

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Lockdowns are terrible for human mental health. We're not meant to live that way. I mean, we put people in prison as punishment because it sucks. I don't care what these people read in to the data - lockdowns are hurting everyone's mental health and making people act strangely. We know a lot about COVID now - who's most vulnerable, how likely people are to die, etc. What staggers me is that huge groups of people are…

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Re: Wellbeing levels fell with the pandemic but improved under lockdown, data shows

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post #9

Lockdowns are terrible for human mental health. We're not meant to live that way. I mean, we put people in prison as punishment because it sucks. I don't care what these people read in to the data - lockdowns are hurting everyone's mental health and making people act strangely. We know a lot about COVID now - who's most vulnerable, how likely people are to die, etc. What staggers me is that huge groups of people are…

Agree.

"People are dying".

"People" isn't a useful cohort.

Age/sex/location/lifestyle/environment/pre-existing conditions all contribute to our individual risk.

Health/financial obligations/location/social patterns contribute to our individual risk tolerance.

The CDC recommendations are not granular enough.

Re: Wellbeing levels fell with the pandemic but improved under lockdown, data shows

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I'm convinced this is too high-level to draw any meaningful conclusions. Personally, as I have a family, staying at home with them while I work, and having no commute, is wonderful and has significantly improved my health and wellbeing. Someone stuck in a one-person flat will have a different experience.

>Someone stuck in a one-person flat will have a different experience. As someone in this position I can say that the lack of a commute has been amazing, I'm sleeping much better and less stressed overall but the lack of social contact is definitely weighing down.

I can sympathise. A lot of the time you don't even spot loneliness. Years later you realise it was eating away at your mental health.

I think cultures which move their children directly from the family household into a marriage may be on to something.

Re: Wellbeing levels fell with the pandemic but improved under lockdown, data shows

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post #9

Lockdowns are terrible for human mental health. We're not meant to live that way. I mean, we put people in prison as punishment because it sucks. I don't care what these people read in to the data - lockdowns are hurting everyone's mental health and making people act strangely. We know a lot about COVID now - who's most vulnerable, how likely people are to die, etc. What staggers me is that huge groups of people are…

>Lockdowns are terrible for human mental health.

It's pretty good for my mental health. Being on crowded public is bad for my mental health.

Re: Wellbeing levels fell with the pandemic but improved under lockdown, data shows

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post #9

Lockdowns are terrible for human mental health. We're not meant to live that way. I mean, we put people in prison as punishment because it sucks. I don't care what these people read in to the data - lockdowns are hurting everyone's mental health and making people act strangely. We know a lot about COVID now - who's most vulnerable, how likely people are to die, etc. What staggers me is that huge groups of people are…

>We're not meant to live that way.

I mean, to abstract this a little bit...were we meant to spend 8+ hours a day, 5 days a week, making money for other people simply because they already had money?

Were we meant to live in densely populated cities in apartment buildings that house 10s to 100s of families on a city block?

Were we meant to spend most of our time with our young children and teach them about the world instead of handing them off for 8+ hours of childcare a day starting at age 5 or 6?

this begs the question: what way were we meant to live?

Re: Wellbeing levels fell with the pandemic but improved under lockdown, data shows

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I wonder if this can be treated as a little bit of an unscientific UBI study? Can we conclude from this that well-being levels would overall improve with a UBI as well?

We can conclude that they'd improve in the short term, but most concerns I've read about UBI are about long-term effects.

Re: Wellbeing levels fell with the pandemic but improved under lockdown, data shows

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post #9

Lockdowns are terrible for human mental health. We're not meant to live that way. I mean, we put people in prison as punishment because it sucks. I don't care what these people read in to the data - lockdowns are hurting everyone's mental health and making people act strangely. We know a lot about COVID now - who's most vulnerable, how likely people are to die, etc. What staggers me is that huge groups of people are…

> lockdowns are terrible for human mental health

That’s exactly what this study is disproving.

At the very least, this data is showing something that is well-known in behavioural circles: that once the threshold of a radical change is overcome, people begin to habituate to it and regress towards the mean.

> we put people in prison as punishment

Lockdown with family in one’s dwelling isn’t prison. Imprisonments is about much more than a loss of mobility.

Re: Wellbeing levels fell with the pandemic but improved under lockdown, data shows

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post #9

Lockdowns are terrible for human mental health. We're not meant to live that way. I mean, we put people in prison as punishment because it sucks. I don't care what these people read in to the data - lockdowns are hurting everyone's mental health and making people act strangely. We know a lot about COVID now - who's most vulnerable, how likely people are to die, etc. What staggers me is that huge groups of people are…

Calling what we did in most of the US a "lockdown" seems like a misnomer. Wuhan did an actual lockdown where people sometimes had their apartment door welded shut and police were arresting people who went outside - that's a lockdown. In the US it was more of a shelter-in-place order. Now that we know more about how the virus spreads we can make those more targeted - forbidding people from going outside at all, for example, just doesn't make any sense with what we know about transmission. Mask-wearing also has helped. Outside seating (with proper distancing) at restaurants seems pretty safe - though come winter this will be less of an option.

As for the "lockdown" and mental health, I have to agree with the article's findings. Myself and a lot of folks I've talked to have liked certain aspects of it - more sleep, less frenetic activity for activity sake, a slower pace. It seemed like the world was getting a long-deserved rest.

Re: Wellbeing levels fell with the pandemic but improved under lockdown, data shows

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Headline is not complete.

"After a rise in negative emotions at the start of the pandemic, wellbeing improved once lockdowns began – but not for everyone."

That's the understatement of the year. Suicides, drug abuse, child sexual abuse, domestic violence, and food insecurity have risen sharply since the lockdown. Deaths of despair have already claimed more lives than COVID, even with the bogus death tallies.

Yet we're all supposed to be okay with this because of some Google Trends data? I want to be far, far away from anyone who thinks like this. Like, catch me on the other side of the planet far.

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