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Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad

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Re: Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad

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Post by brink »

Tehnix wrote: post #10
brink wrote: post #4

I get that. I can give up seeing the Louvre this summer. But my loved one is in another country and the last thing my heart needs is more lock-downs. We need to consider what closed borders are doing to bi-national married / unmarried couples. They've been a largely ignored demographic during this pandemic and collateral damage due to the broad and sweeping policies that have taken place on the borders.

In Denmark, at least, as long as you live, work, or even if you are a relative to someone or a couple, you can get into the country. So there shouldn't be a problem in your case :) (it's basically meant to only limit tourism). Does Norway handle this differently?

Oh I know very well about Denmark, they're a shining example of how it should be done. Unfortunately I and a lot of people are unaffiliated with Denmark.

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Post by loulou24 »

brink wrote: post #4

I get that. I can give up seeing the Louvre this summer. But my loved one is in another country and the last thing my heart needs is more lock-downs. We need to consider what closed borders are doing to bi-national married / unmarried couples. They've been a largely ignored demographic during this pandemic and collateral damage due to the broad and sweeping policies that have taken place on the borders.

As a bi-national away from my fragile parents, I'm glad governments take the situation seriously and don't get distracted anymore by the constant flow of accusations of "xenophobia" by the self-righteous self-proclaimed "anti-racist" mob.

Re: Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad

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Post by culturestate »

brink wrote: post #4

I get that. I can give up seeing the Louvre this summer. But my loved one is in another country and the last thing my heart needs is more lock-downs. We need to consider what closed borders are doing to bi-national married / unmarried couples. They've been a largely ignored demographic during this pandemic and collateral damage due to the broad and sweeping policies that have taken place on the borders.

I’m in the same boat as you with the added wrinkle that we’re both expats, so we’re separated from each other and our families. It’s not the first time this has happened, but it’s the first time it’s been more or less legally mandated.

One of my key takeaways from this experience is that I wish someone besides Facebook was making relatively inexpensive, easy-to-use home video portals that can follow you around a room.

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Post by culturestate »

Tehnix wrote: post #10
brink wrote: post #4

I get that. I can give up seeing the Louvre this summer. But my loved one is in another country and the last thing my heart needs is more lock-downs. We need to consider what closed borders are doing to bi-national married / unmarried couples. They've been a largely ignored demographic during this pandemic and collateral damage due to the broad and sweeping policies that have taken place on the borders.

In Denmark, at least, as long as you live, work, or even if you are a relative to someone or a couple, you can get into the country. So there shouldn't be a problem in your case :) (it's basically meant to only limit tourism). Does Norway handle this differently?

I’m not OP, but in a similar situation and our problem isn’t that we can’t get to each other, it’s the quarantine requirements on either side. What used to be a quick weekend trip now means 4 weeks of quarantine.

Re: Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

loulou24 wrote: post #14
brink wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Xenophobia is mistreatment of the foreigner.

Restricting travel is not mistreatment.

No, being refused service at a restaurant even though you never left the country you are residing in is xenophobia.

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Post by bromuro »

brink wrote: post #4

I get that. I can give up seeing the Louvre this summer. But my loved one is in another country and the last thing my heart needs is more lock-downs. We need to consider what closed borders are doing to bi-national married / unmarried couples. They've been a largely ignored demographic during this pandemic and collateral damage due to the broad and sweeping policies that have taken place on the borders.

Oh I’ve lost my partner as well. No idea when we will see us again.

Re: Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad

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Post by kingkawn »

culturestate wrote: post #15
Tehnix wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Denmark, at least, as long as you live, work, or even if you are a relative to someone or a couple, you can get into the country. So there shouldn't be a problem in your case :) (it's basically meant to only limit tourism). Does Norway handle this differently?

I’m not OP, but in a similar situation and our problem isn’t that we can’t get to each other, it’s the quarantine requirements on either side. What used to be a quick weekend trip now means 4 weeks of quarantine.

For better and for worse in this moment of crisis the nation state is the organizational model we’ve got.

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Post by mensetmanusman »

culturestate wrote: post #13
brink wrote: post #4

I get that. I can give up seeing the Louvre this summer. But my loved one is in another country and the last thing my heart needs is more lock-downs. We need to consider what closed borders are doing to bi-national married / unmarried couples. They've been a largely ignored demographic during this pandemic and collateral damage due to the broad and sweeping policies that have taken place on the borders.

I’m in the same boat as you with the added wrinkle that we’re both expats, so we’re separated from each other and our families. It’s not the first time this has happened, but it’s the first time it’s been more or less legally mandated. One of my key takeaways from this experience is that I wish someone besides Facebook was making relatively inexpensive, easy-to-use home video portals that can follow you around a room…

What is this home video portal system on facebook?

Re: Norway advises citizens to avoid all travel abroad

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Post by lancebeet »

Tehnix wrote: post #10
brink wrote: post #4

I get that. I can give up seeing the Louvre this summer. But my loved one is in another country and the last thing my heart needs is more lock-downs. We need to consider what closed borders are doing to bi-national married / unmarried couples. They've been a largely ignored demographic during this pandemic and collateral damage due to the broad and sweeping policies that have taken place on the borders.

In Denmark, at least, as long as you live, work, or even if you are a relative to someone or a couple, you can get into the country. So there shouldn't be a problem in your case :) (it's basically meant to only limit tourism). Does Norway handle this differently?

Sweden certainly handled it differently, despite having far fewer restrictions than most other countries. Individuals who had received a residence permit from Swedish authorities were denied entry into the country due to coronavirus related restrictions.[1]

[1] https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/stockholm/rajivs-fru-stopp... (Swedish)

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