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Re: Tesla whistleblower breaks his silence

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Is there any verification to his core claims? His videos meander so much, his claims are vague, and the statement about firing his attorneys is concerning.

The specificity of the claims, high rate of battery fires on the road, general pattern of behavior at Tesla with respect to build quality and disregard for safety. Not enough to convict anyone but enough to convince me that it is more probable than not. It should also be enough to convince anyone that there is a serious possibility that it's true.

What verification would have satisfied you for the fraud at Wirecard (or Enron, etc.)?

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The stats of Tesla deaths per million miles is better than moat cars, so until there's a proof that those statistics are biased, I side with Tesla.

This is very different from the diesel emissions lie that is killing millions of people silently every year.

Re: Tesla whistleblower breaks his silence

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.scribd.com/document/471770054/TES-TRIPP-0028348-...

What am I supposed to take away? Some other former employee (who is broke, was fired and is trying to get his job back at Tesla) claims the problems were not that bad (Does he have expertise in batteries?). He makes a bunch of other unfounded allegations about Tripp claiming about getting paid (Musk in his deposition testified that there was no actual evidence for that allegation). The entire testimony reads like inc…

> unfounded allegations about Tripp claiming about getting paid

This has already been substantiated on the court documents.

https://twitter.com/enn_nafnlaus/status/1220154057895088133?...

>(Musk in his deposition testified that there was no actual evidence for that allegation).

Do you have a link for this claim? I'm curious to read it.

Re: Tesla whistleblower breaks his silence

#14

Is there any verification to his core claims? His videos meander so much, his claims are vague, and the statement about firing his attorneys is concerning.

The specificity of the claims, high rate of battery fires on the road, general pattern of behavior at Tesla with respect to build quality and disregard for safety. Not enough to convict anyone but enough to convince me that it is more probable than not. It should also be enough to convince anyone that there is a serious possibility that it's true. What verification would have satisfied you for the fraud at Wirecard (…

You created your account 34 minutes ago and have provided zero supporting links on your claims.

Re: Tesla whistleblower breaks his silence

#15

Is there any verification to his core claims? His videos meander so much, his claims are vague, and the statement about firing his attorneys is concerning.

The specificity of the claims, high rate of battery fires on the road, general pattern of behavior at Tesla with respect to build quality and disregard for safety. Not enough to convict anyone but enough to convince me that it is more probable than not. It should also be enough to convince anyone that there is a serious possibility that it's true. What verification would have satisfied you for the fraud at Wirecard (…

I think you know that the issue here is there are too many folks who will believe Musk nearly no matter what he says. It's going to take some really strong evidence to slow or stop his freight train. Maybe that comes; maybe it doesn't. But the power of true believers is strong and real. It helped save Apple in the late 90s, and it will give Musk many, many second chances.

Edit: My comment was very, very neutral. And very, very factual. Shame on you whoever downvoted me.

Re: Tesla whistleblower breaks his silence

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The specificity of the claims, high rate of battery fires on the road, general pattern of behavior at Tesla with respect to build quality and disregard for safety. Not enough to convict anyone but enough to convince me that it is more probable than not. It should also be enough to convince anyone that there is a serious possibility that it's true. What verification would have satisfied you for the fraud at Wirecard (…

I think you know that the issue here is there are too many folks who will believe Musk nearly no matter what he says. It's going to take some really strong evidence to slow or stop his freight train. Maybe that comes; maybe it doesn't. But the power of true believers is strong and real. It helped save Apple in the late 90s, and it will give Musk many, many second chances. Edit: My comment was very, very neutral. And…

I believe what's on the official court documents that were made public. Anything else is speculation, which is what is exactly what you're doing.

Re: Tesla whistleblower breaks his silence

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The specificity of the claims, high rate of battery fires on the road, general pattern of behavior at Tesla with respect to build quality and disregard for safety. Not enough to convict anyone but enough to convince me that it is more probable than not. It should also be enough to convince anyone that there is a serious possibility that it's true. What verification would have satisfied you for the fraud at Wirecard (…

I think you know that the issue here is there are too many folks who will believe Musk nearly no matter what he says. It's going to take some really strong evidence to slow or stop his freight train. Maybe that comes; maybe it doesn't. But the power of true believers is strong and real. It helped save Apple in the late 90s, and it will give Musk many, many second chances. Edit: My comment was very, very neutral. And…

You created your account about 10 minutes ago, chief. Not buying it.

Re: Tesla whistleblower breaks his silence

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you know that the issue here is there are too many folks who will believe Musk nearly no matter what he says. It's going to take some really strong evidence to slow or stop his freight train. Maybe that comes; maybe it doesn't. But the power of true believers is strong and real. It helped save Apple in the late 90s, and it will give Musk many, many second chances. Edit: My comment was very, very neutral. And…

I believe what's on the official court documents that were made public. Anything else is speculation, which is what is exactly what you're doing.

I didn't speculate about anything. I just said that the public will require overwhelming evidence of something bad to change its mind because of the cult of personality around Musk. That's simply a fact.

Re: Tesla whistleblower breaks his silence

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you know that the issue here is there are too many folks who will believe Musk nearly no matter what he says. It's going to take some really strong evidence to slow or stop his freight train. Maybe that comes; maybe it doesn't. But the power of true believers is strong and real. It helped save Apple in the late 90s, and it will give Musk many, many second chances. Edit: My comment was very, very neutral. And…

You created your account about 10 minutes ago, chief. Not buying it.

I created a new account because my old one would get downvoted because my username was arguably offensive. I got tired of that.

I'm not sure what I'd be asking you to buy here. I'm neither siding with or against OP. I'm just making a point about levels of proof needed regarding actions by someone who is beloved by the public.

This isn't really controversial. Look how many allegations it took to sway people about Bill Cosby, for example.

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