Funnily, the one data that seems to matter for Siri is the web and wiki data for question answering. Siri still uses wolfram for many trivial questions. None of this is about privacy or user data and Siri is behind the state of the art here.
Why Apple believes it’s an AI leader–and why it says critics have it all wrong
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Re: Why Apple believes it’s an AI leader–and why it says critics have it all wrong
#12This piece is interesting because Apple was saying this all along but no one really believed them because it sounded like excuse making. But here JG is basically saying the same thing: >Yes, I understand this perception of bigger models in data centers somehow are more accurate, but it's actually wrong. It's actually technically wrong. It's better to run the model close to the data, rather than moving the data around…
It still sounds like excuse-making because Apple are behind in their own chosen terms: their competitor launched on-device machine translation a long time ago. The only remaining part of Apple’s AI privacy story is insinuation.
Re: Why Apple believes it’s an AI leader–and why it says critics have it all wrong
#13Apple is behind in AI. Google has Google Lens, real-time transcription of audio recordings, live captions. And Google Assistant is leaps and bounds ahead of Siri in nearly every way.
What is there in AI that Google doesn't beat Apple at?
Re: Why Apple believes it’s an AI leader–and why it says critics have it all wrong
#14Show don't tell. You don't lead in AI or anything else by insisting everybody who noticed you're bad at something "has it wrong".
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#15I agree that Apple is underrated here, and I think their rigid user interfaces for things like Photos hides the power of their platform. It seems absurd to let Google Photos slurp up your data server side when your iPhone can do 80+% of the photo categorization automatically. It’s equally absurd that Apple has a glacial pace of change for the user side.
One person's slurping is another's always accessible
It could still be always accesible, without the middleman actually being able to read the data.
Re: Why Apple believes it’s an AI leader–and why it says critics have it all wrong
#16I agree that Apple is underrated here, and I think their rigid user interfaces for things like Photos hides the power of their platform. It seems absurd to let Google Photos slurp up your data server side when your iPhone can do 80+% of the photo categorization automatically. It’s equally absurd that Apple has a glacial pace of change for the user side.
In my and several of my friends' experience, Google Photos search is simply much, much better than Apple Photos. Even though I use Apple Photos personally, I have to admit Google's is just better. My friends always say "if I can't search for my photos easily, what's the point in amassing a large collection?".
Re: Why Apple believes it’s an AI leader–and why it says critics have it all wrong
#17One thing where apple is shining is brainwashing. It looks very funny when caravans of people are waiting store opening to hysterically buy an overpriced smartphone, even if it's technologically 2 years behind cheaper Samsung S20 (except chip performance, but it doesn't matter anymore, because there is no tasks that needs so much computing power)
> even if it's technologically 2 years behind cheaper Samsung S20 (except chip performance
Examples?
Re: Why Apple believes it’s an AI leader–and why it says critics have it all wrong
#18This piece is interesting because Apple was saying this all along but no one really believed them because it sounded like excuse making. But here JG is basically saying the same thing: >Yes, I understand this perception of bigger models in data centers somehow are more accurate, but it's actually wrong. It's actually technically wrong. It's better to run the model close to the data, rather than moving the data around…
It's not my area, but I read Google's AI blog and they seem to be doing machine learning research that ends up in its phones, such as various camera improvements and offline Google Translate.
It seems like it's the sort of thing you do when you can, but often it comes as a second phase after getting it to work in the data center.
I didn't see anything in this article that was obviously unique to Apple.
Re: Why Apple believes it’s an AI leader–and why it says critics have it all wrong
#19This piece is interesting because Apple was saying this all along but no one really believed them because it sounded like excuse making. But here JG is basically saying the same thing: >Yes, I understand this perception of bigger models in data centers somehow are more accurate, but it's actually wrong. It's actually technically wrong. It's better to run the model close to the data, rather than moving the data around…
It's not my area, but I read Google's AI blog and they seem to be doing machine learning research that ends up in its phones, such as various camera improvements and offline Google Translate. It seems like it's the sort of thing you do when you can, but often it comes as a second phase after getting it to work in the data center. I didn't see anything in this article that was obviously unique to Apple.
I think a lot of people have underrated the benefits Apple reaps in this area from being so far ahead in chip design and controlling their hardware. As regards to successfully productizing ML I’ve recently become convinced that Apple has been more successful at it than Google so far. Translation was already well within Google’s wheelhouse and they had been doing it for years, and their work with cameras is going to inevitably be hindered by the fact that they can’t depend on certain specs the way Apple can. I suspect the Pixel exists at least partially to prove that they understand those benefits.
Re: Why Apple believes it’s an AI leader–and why it says critics have it all wrong
#20I agree that Apple is underrated here, and I think their rigid user interfaces for things like Photos hides the power of their platform. It seems absurd to let Google Photos slurp up your data server side when your iPhone can do 80+% of the photo categorization automatically. It’s equally absurd that Apple has a glacial pace of change for the user side.
True, Apple has a big advantage by having a sense for the baseline-level of computing power on client devices, which is pretty high across the board. The uniformity of UX is worth the glacial rate, IMO. The more ScrollViews with arbitrarily laid out content (Photos seems to have these increasingly), the less intuitive I find apps. In Photos, I find it hard to get a sense for what menu-depth I'm at. Apple has a very l…
plus all of those UI frameworks totally suck in one way or another