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The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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Re: The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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Wonderful article. I've often wondered if it was possible to have computer culture without a massive industry to support it.

Did the Zilog Z80 require a massive industry to support it? That chip came out of engineers who left Intel.

Nothing like the industry now, but the Z-80 and contemporary chips (8085, 6502, 680x) came from companies (Intel, MOS, Motorola) that were as massive as the industry was at the time. The 6502 (Apple, Atari) came out of engineers who left Motorola.

Re: The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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There were a lot of DYI computer schemes in USSR in my childhood. Mostly because getting your hands onto a ready-made one outside workplaces and some very advanced schools was nearly impossible, but there were a bunch of schemes published in popular technical journals. From those, with luck, some access to electronic components (also not always easy but easier than getting the whole computer) and decent skills with a soldering iron, one could make a working computer. Output would go to the TV, and some had persistent storage using a cassette recorder. Since there was no internet, of course, if you want a game, or another program (but it usually would be a game), you have to copy it from your friends (and if you ask where the first friend got it - no idea... probably somebody got it from official developers or brought from overseas? but all games of that period I've seen were copied from friends).

Re: The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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post #5

Wonderful article. I've often wondered if it was possible to have computer culture without a massive industry to support it.

You definitely need electronics industry at least. But designing the schemes and writing the software can be done by hobbyists up to some level.

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This is a great story, but most of the anecdotes are very familiar to someone who has studied (or was there for) the early era of home computing in the West. The Altair, the Heathkit, etc. Bill Gates' infamous Open Letter To Hobbyists was written in that era: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Letter_to_Hobbyists The article treats a lot of this stuff as more unique (and, it seems, ideologically inspired) than it was…

This computer was designed the better part of a decade after Bill Gates's letter. The environment is really completely different - the personal computer revolution has already happened, these people are aware of it, etc. In fact, such computers were available but well outside the budget of many. So it's the story of making a PC from available parts, without hard currency and as cheap as possible - radically cheaper than the early US kits.

Re: The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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Wayback has a site about a (2018) replica build of the Galaksija.[0] It includes links to multiple sites with a lot more technical details. One of them [1] has a schematic, parts-list, and board-layout diagram. (Software???)

[0]https://web.archive.org/web/20191226063832/http://oldcompute...

[1]https://web.archive.org/web/20191220081815/http://www.spetsi...

Re: The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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post #14
post #2

This is a great story, but most of the anecdotes are very familiar to someone who has studied (or was there for) the early era of home computing in the West. The Altair, the Heathkit, etc. Bill Gates' infamous Open Letter To Hobbyists was written in that era: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Letter_to_Hobbyists The article treats a lot of this stuff as more unique (and, it seems, ideologically inspired) than it was…

This computer was designed the better part of a decade after Bill Gates's letter. The environment is really completely different - the personal computer revolution has already happened, these people are aware of it, etc. In fact, such computers were available but well outside the budget of many. So it's the story of making a PC from available parts, without hard currency and as cheap as possible - radically cheaper t…

To me, the article would have been more informative and satisfying had it dwelled more on the unique elements you mention as opposed to the ways where it resembled the hobbyist PC era, like non-commercial distribution of programs in source form.

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post #12

There were a lot of DYI computer schemes in USSR in my childhood. Mostly because getting your hands onto a ready-made one outside workplaces and some very advanced schools was nearly impossible, but there were a bunch of schemes published in popular technical journals. From those, with luck, some access to electronic components (also not always easy but easier than getting the whole computer) and decent skills with a…

The difficulty of getting transistors in the early 70's (to fix one's time machine): https://youtu.be/m3xVdxDWFWU?t=2700

Do you remember if it was true that milspec had in general better tolerances than commercially sold components?

Re: The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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As a kid, probably 12-13, I was a guest member of ETF Computer Club, Dejan Ristanovic and another friend would take me with them to the movies, I remember watching Graduate /w Dustin Hoffman with them. Unforgettable. Probably main reason and inspiration that I became a programmer. If he was born here in the US, he would be a billionaire. Exceptional talent and wonderful man.

Re: The Galaksija computer was a craze in 1980s Yugoslavia

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In the mid 80s, way for most to see a computer over there was to join a club, a school club (called "section") where you could try your hand at programming.

Often enough there wasn't any kind of a tape or disk device, so you had to type your program from a magazine, a printout, or handwritten notes. It took forever, and there were typos and glitches to resolve.

Once, I watched a guy painstakingly type a 200 line basic program. He stepped away for a minute to use the WC, and the joker who sat in his stead bird-pecked "new" and hit enter. That was the end of that evening.

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