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I'm an Unemployed Waitress. Don't Dine Out at All

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Re: I'm an Unemployed Waitress. Don't Dine Out at All

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Post by rickyc091 »

johnnyb9 wrote: post #9

In NYC you can't even dine indoors. Is there really a big risk of eating maskless at a table, outdoors, separated by plexiglass (or 6 feet apart), in a city where the COVID infection rate is so low? Or serving those customers?

The reality of NYC dining is more like this.

https://ny.eater.com/2020/7/21/21302310/outdoor-dining-reser...

https://www.6sqft.com/best-outdoor-dining-restaurants-nyc/

The tables are next to each other; in many cases, with just enough room for one person to squeeze through. Plexiglass between each table is a rare luxury.

Re: I'm an Unemployed Waitress. Don't Dine Out at All

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Post by op00to »

notacoward wrote: post #8
nullc wrote: post #7

When did we forget how to cook for ourselves? I am perplexed by the large number of articles-- including this one-- the seem to assume that the options are eat-in or take-out.

It seems disturbingly common among the college-to-30 demographic. Among my coworkers at a FAANG company, many of whom had gone straight from parents' home to college dorm to a corporate campus with multiple cafes serving more-than-decent food, the switch to WFH caused no small amount of angst. Many others in tech and finance become "foodies" addicted to meals better than they can cook themselves, and since they also…

What’s wrong with one person prep and cook, one person clean?

Re: I'm an Unemployed Waitress. Don't Dine Out at All

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Post by schwartzworld »

Before I was in software I spent many years in the restaurant industry and I can't imagine how tough it must be for those employees.

The article mentions that her boss told her not to come to work if she feels sick. In the industry, I never received anything but pushback for banging out, even when I was deathly ill. The opposite can be true with managers issuing repercussions for calling in sick.

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Post by nullc »

notacoward wrote: post #8
nullc wrote: post #7

When did we forget how to cook for ourselves? I am perplexed by the large number of articles-- including this one-- the seem to assume that the options are eat-in or take-out.

It seems disturbingly common among the college-to-30 demographic. Among my coworkers at a FAANG company, many of whom had gone straight from parents' home to college dorm to a corporate campus with multiple cafes serving more-than-decent food, the switch to WFH caused no small amount of angst. Many others in tech and finance become "foodies" addicted to meals better than they can cook themselves, and since they also…

Indeed, a tradeoff could easily make sense for someone.

That a person's chosen tradeoff might not change in a time of widescale pandemic and massive unemployment surprises me. And that a lot of articles take it granted that people will continue to eat out perplexes me.

We ate out a fair bit before covid19 cases took off but haven't once since March... wasn't even something that we considered at any point.

TBH food at home has been more enjoyable than what we were getting out, the time suck in cleanup is real-- but it isn't like we're going anywhere. :)

Re: I'm an Unemployed Waitress. Don't Dine Out at All

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Post by mnm1 »

nullc wrote: post #15
notacoward wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems disturbingly common among the college-to-30 demographic. Among my coworkers at a FAANG company, many of whom had gone straight from parents' home to college dorm to a corporate campus with multiple cafes serving more-than-decent food, the switch to WFH caused no small amount of angst. Many others in tech and finance become "foodies" addicted to meals better than they can cook themselves, and since they also…

Indeed, a tradeoff could easily make sense for someone. That a person's chosen tradeoff might not change in a time of widescale pandemic and massive unemployment surprises me. And that a lot of articles take it granted that people will continue to eat out perplexes me. We ate out a fair bit before covid19 cases took off but haven't once since March... wasn't even something that we considered at any point. TBH food at…

I too am surprised at people who continue to eat take out. I don't trust restaurant workers to stay home when not sick and take precautions with the food to make sure it's not contaminated. It's hard enough dealing with food delivery every few weeks. Most people won't change unless they are forced to. I hope indoor restaurants and bars are shut down again soon. Completely unnecessary services. Everything that can be should be curbside service.

Re: I'm an Unemployed Waitress. Don't Dine Out at All

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Post by orev »

baseballdork wrote: post #3
wittyreference wrote: post #2

I fail to understand this article. It seems to wobble between "don't eat out, you'll propagate infection to others," which, yes, social distance good, disease transmission bad. But most of the article seems to suggest something like: "when you eat out, you put us, your service staff, at risk." Uhm... quit? Normally I'd say something like, "most people can't afford to just quit," but no one can afford to pay you to st…

Aren't you disqualified for unemployment benefits if you quit instead of being fired?

“fired” means being terminated for cause, such as you stole something. “laid off” is the term used for no longer being employed for other reasons, like the company can’t afford to keep your position around.

Re: I'm an Unemployed Waitress. Don't Dine Out at All

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Post by notacoward »

op00to wrote: post #12
notacoward wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems disturbingly common among the college-to-30 demographic. Among my coworkers at a FAANG company, many of whom had gone straight from parents' home to college dorm to a corporate campus with multiple cafes serving more-than-decent food, the switch to WFH caused no small amount of angst. Many others in tech and finance become "foodies" addicted to meals better than they can cook themselves, and since they also…

What’s wrong with one person prep and cook, one person clean?

Nothing, when done right. But not when "prep and cook" means minimal prep and using twice as many dishes/utensils as were really necessary, while "clean" means putting away ingredients/appliances and bringing food to the table and dealing with leftovers as well as actually cleaning. If we're talking about total time, we also have to consider who buys the groceries, who sharpens the knives, and a bunch of other things.

The point is that "it only takes ten minutes" is inaccurate in the sense that it doesn't properly represent the labor that's replaced by choosing take-out instead. It's something usually said by people who are already enjoying the privilege of having someone else do most of the work.

Re: I'm an Unemployed Waitress. Don't Dine Out at All

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Post by xtiansimon »

orev wrote: post #18
baseballdork wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't you disqualified for unemployment benefits if you quit instead of being fired?

“fired” means being terminated for cause, such as you stole something. “laid off” is the term used for no longer being employed for other reasons, like the company can’t afford to keep your position around.

> “fired” means being terminated for cause, such as you stole something."

Ugh. All 50 states have At-will employment:

"At-will employment is a term used in U.S. labor law for contractual relationships in which an employee can be dismissed by an employer for any reason (that is, without having to establish "just cause" for termination), and without warning,[1] as long as the reason is not illegal (e.g. firing because of the employee's race, religion or sexuality)." [1]

Being 'fired' has a negative stigma, despite the fact you can be terminated for _any_ reason, including 'employee just didn't fit in'. Many companies are also very savvy about the process. Have a "negative" performance review, with a warning, then some time later be fired. Thus documenting a "cause" other than your ugly sweater.

What's interesting is when employers mistakenly believe they can disqualify you for unemployment because they fired you. This is not the case.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment

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