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Bacteria and Colon Cancer

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Re: Bacteria and Colon Cancer

#11
What causes one bacteria to flourish in the colon? Is it a lack of other flora? Is it diet related?

Not to be crass, but I also kind of wonder what it smells like. Are there scientists who study the smells of these biological systems? Seems like that would be a high bandwidth way to gain insight into a gut.

Re: Bacteria and Colon Cancer

#12

Nice forward progress on the search for a preventative treatment. Also TIL bad gum health can lead to colon cancer. So counter intuitive. runs off to brush teeth

Can lead to or correlates?

IIUC, the article claims 'leads to':

> The belief, in both colon cancer and pregnancy complications, is that the bacterium migrates from the mouth into the bloodstream (bleeding gums) and from there into other organs.

Re: Bacteria and Colon Cancer

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brushing and flossing does also damage your gums depending on the force and utility. Thats worst then doing nothing because now bacteria can enter your blood stream and hitch a ride to the other parts of the body. Much better option is to not eat carbs which universally damage teath.

Yeah sure, carbs are the ultimate devil in todays hipster keto obsessed world. There is just a slight problem that in short they were never a problem during our history when you eat unprocessed whole foods.

We're eating wayyyy more carbs relative to our ancestors. Refined sugar is in everything.

I never thought about it until my wife measured a teaspoon of sugar -- it's 5g. Now when I look at things like protein bars or Starbucks drinks and see 35g sugar I do a spit-take.

Re: Bacteria and Colon Cancer

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Nice forward progress on the search for a preventative treatment. Also TIL bad gum health can lead to colon cancer. So counter intuitive. runs off to brush teeth

> So counter intuitive. runs off to brush teeth

Brushing teeth excessively can/will cause bleeding gums which is exactly what you should be trying to avoid.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can lead to or correlates?

IIUC, the article claims 'leads to': > The belief, in both colon cancer and pregnancy complications, is that the bacterium migrates from the mouth into the bloodstream (bleeding gums) and from there into other organs.

It does not claim such a thing. It's written "the belief...".

Re: Bacteria and Colon Cancer

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brushing and flossing does also damage your gums depending on the force and utility. Thats worst then doing nothing because now bacteria can enter your blood stream and hitch a ride to the other parts of the body. Much better option is to not eat carbs which universally damage teath.

Yeah sure, carbs are the ultimate devil in todays hipster keto obsessed world. There is just a slight problem that in short they were never a problem during our history when you eat unprocessed whole foods.

You are not thinking this right. The carb landscape changed quite a bit compared to the time our teeth evolved:

- we eat simple carbs a lot now

- we selected fruit for generations based on sugar content

- we eat carbs constantly, year after year

- we ingest less of protective substances like Vitamin C

i.e. you can't just prefix a thing with 'hipster' and call it a day.

Re: Bacteria and Colon Cancer

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah sure, carbs are the ultimate devil in todays hipster keto obsessed world. There is just a slight problem that in short they were never a problem during our history when you eat unprocessed whole foods.

You are not thinking this right. The carb landscape changed quite a bit compared to the time our teeth evolved: - we eat simple carbs a lot now - we selected fruit for generations based on sugar content - we eat carbs constantly, year after year - we ingest less of protective substances like Vitamin C i.e. you can't just prefix a thing with 'hipster' and call it a day.

- we eat much less dietary fiber (generally)

Re: Bacteria and Colon Cancer

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brushing and flossing does also damage your gums depending on the force and utility. Thats worst then doing nothing because now bacteria can enter your blood stream and hitch a ride to the other parts of the body. Much better option is to not eat carbs which universally damage teath.

Yeah sure, carbs are the ultimate devil in todays hipster keto obsessed world. There is just a slight problem that in short they were never a problem during our history when you eat unprocessed whole foods.

"hipster keto" - - exactly.

I converted over to 30% monkfruit extract powder as a sweetener, no bitter aftertaste, the closest to sugar I have ever tasted, ~$210 a kg., stored in my freezer it will last me 5 years.

It's like 200x sweeter than sugar and has almost zero calories and FDA approved. I can achieve up to a brix level 8 with monkfruit, so it will not sweeten very sour or bitter substances by itself. Some mix it with erythritol to get closer to sweetening bitter chocolate.

Re: Bacteria and Colon Cancer

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Nice forward progress on the search for a preventative treatment. Also TIL bad gum health can lead to colon cancer. So counter intuitive. runs off to brush teeth

Brushing and flossing does also damage your gums depending on the force and utility. Thats worst then doing nothing because now bacteria can enter your blood stream and hitch a ride to the other parts of the body. Much better option is to not eat carbs which universally damage teath.

I think things are more complex than "brushing and flossing damages your gums depending on force and utility" because I've got wisdom teeth that I've been forcibly brushing for decades in the interest of making my gumline recede and it just. doesn't. work.

I also eat carbs like they're going out of style. At least one serving every day, minimum. I've also had an insatiable sweet tooth for most of my life, although that tapered off into my mid-30s.

I went fourteen years without seeing a dentist, and when I finally went in, aside from serious plaque buildup, my teeth and gums were in fantastic shape. It may have something to do with the fact that I drink skim milk like a toddler - about two gallons a week.

I will say, one effect that dairy and carbs has on my oral hygiene is that they promote the formation of tonsililoths - but once I was turned on to using a tongue scraper, that problem disappeared completely.

How did I go 14 years without a dentist and end up with great teeth anyway? Avoid sugary carbonated beverages, I floss with Plackers, I brush daily with an electric toothbrush and a baking soda/peroxide toothpaste, I use a tongue scraper, and I rinse with & gargle Listerene.

Re: Bacteria and Colon Cancer

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah sure, carbs are the ultimate devil in todays hipster keto obsessed world. There is just a slight problem that in short they were never a problem during our history when you eat unprocessed whole foods.

We're eating wayyyy more carbs relative to our ancestors. Refined sugar is in everything. I never thought about it until my wife measured a teaspoon of sugar -- it's 5g. Now when I look at things like protein bars or Starbucks drinks and see 35g sugar I do a spit-take.

Yeah I think most carbs that you’ll eat are pretty OK (grains), but just the volume of sugar in most things unreal.

The daily suggested limit of sugar is ~50g. Which is already a lot if you look at the volume of it all. But then consider a single can of soda is around that much. Bottles are around 75g. There are people who have 3+ sodas a day.

http://sugarstacks.com/

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