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Why Do We Have Dev Rels Now?

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Re: Why Do We Have Dev Rels Now?

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Like others, I wasn't familiar with the term, but once you'd explained, I know exactly the type you're talking about. Having worked in consultancy for several years, these people are fairly common. They attend meetings with new clients, hobknob at events, and form the bulk of the companies social output.

In my mind, they exist to win business, and provide confidence when clients need it.

Re: Why Do We Have Dev Rels Now?

#12
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For those unfamiliar with the term, it's in the article about two-thirds of the way down. > Commonly it’s just known as a ‘developer relations’ role (so ‘DevRel’ for short) No, it's not a typo for Dev Reels, which would be an interesting alternative to open source repositories, but I guess you'd have to get good at video editing first!

I skimmed the article but didn't find it at a glance. Isn't it blog 101 to ensure your readers now this stuff?

I try to find a balanced view. For sure, it's a pet peeve to see initialisms and abbreviations without explanation but at the same time, I'm probably just not the target audience if I don't recognize the term. Why am I even clicking the headline? But curiosity rules, so I do click such headlines, and if I don't see a quick explanation of a new term, I'll research it.

Re: Why Do We Have Dev Rels Now?

#13

Devrel here, (by the way it’s typically called a Developer Advocate or a Developer Evangelist, don’t get me started on how many questions I’ve gotten about the relation to religion lol) I think the article does a good job describing what devrel looks like at companies that are smart about selling to the new “tech business world” which is desperate for a way to measure the technical credibility of potential vendors. B…

Author here. Thanks for this perspective, it's really helpful to me.

Re: Why Do We Have Dev Rels Now?

#14

For those unfamiliar with the term, it's in the article about two-thirds of the way down. > Commonly it’s just known as a ‘developer relations’ role (so ‘DevRel’ for short) No, it's not a typo for Dev Reels, which would be an interesting alternative to open source repositories, but I guess you'd have to get good at video editing first!

Thanks, I put a link in to help people on the first mention. In my bubble DevRels are more of a thing than most people's. I have never heard of 'Dev Reels' either!

Ah thank you! It's a made up term to play off Demo Reel which actors use to condense their best work into a quick video full of highlights.

Re: Why Do We Have Dev Rels Now?

#15
In the two DevReal roles I've had, there is some aspect of marketing and customer support, but not really "sales". For me, it's been a hybrid engineering and product role, where talking to the users helps surface bugs as well as ideas for new features.

So much less "technical sales" than "developer whose role includes public interaction"

Re: Why Do We Have Dev Rels Now?

#16

For those unfamiliar with the term, it's in the article about two-thirds of the way down. > Commonly it’s just known as a ‘developer relations’ role (so ‘DevRel’ for short) No, it's not a typo for Dev Reels, which would be an interesting alternative to open source repositories, but I guess you'd have to get good at video editing first!

I misread it as Dev Reels first also, and was imagining developers using drones to make hype videos of them on their laptops to submit to companies along with their resumes.

Re: Why Do We Have Dev Rels Now?

#17
Developer Advocate here (who works in Developer Relations). I think "DevRel" is a big bucket, but what the author is calling "Developer Relations" is just the most visible subset of the bucket.

The impression is that a "DevRel" spends all their time writing talks, traveling to conferences, pitching products and speaking. This makes sense, because the "DevRels" you probably see the most are the ones that are doing these things, and you don't see them doing anything else. A lot of people are surprised to discover that traveling and speaking is actually a very small part of my job, given the number of talks I give, and how often they see me at events.

I think part of this perception comes from the conflation between an advocate and an evangelist. There is endless debate about what these terms mean in the context of developer relations, but for me, the difference is this:

* Evangelists want users to know that a product exists: They're speaking to developers, about the product. They probably report to & work with Sales/Marketing.

* Advocates want products to know that their users exist. They're speaking to product owners, about the developers. They probably report to & work with Engineering/Product.

Both roles are equally important (and sometimes done by the same person), and the "publicly-validated credibility" the author talks about is just as valuable to the product team as it is to the sales team.

Re: Why Do We Have Dev Rels Now?

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So a sales like role, but with someone with a bit deeper technical knowledge who can speak to not just the nuts and bolts of features, but talk to the customer about what they do with tech, maybe how, and etc? Seems like a role that I've seen done by sales, sales engineers, product managers, etc.

They used to call it Technical Sales in the circles I travel.

Tech Sales is focused on closing accounts, whereas Dev Rels do things like teaching developers how to use a company's APIs at hackathons. It's like the difference between conversion marketing and brand advertising.

Re: Why Do We Have Dev Rels Now?

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Devrel here, (by the way it’s typically called a Developer Advocate or a Developer Evangelist, don’t get me started on how many questions I’ve gotten about the relation to religion lol) I think the article does a good job describing what devrel looks like at companies that are smart about selling to the new “tech business world” which is desperate for a way to measure the technical credibility of potential vendors. B…

> it’s typically called a Developer Advocate or a Developer Evangelist

And a lot of the dev advocates I see on social media (most seem to have a strong presence there) also have an image of an avocado, since apparently a lot of people confuse "developer advocate" with "developer avocado". Just noting that in case you notice a number of people with avocados in their about text and wonder what that's about.

Re: Why Do We Have Dev Rels Now?

#20
You know how they took operations, re-christened it "DevOps", and made it the responsibility of the dev team without commensurate increase in hiring or pay or education?

That, but for account management.

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