On Trouser Pockets • Hacker News Board

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by crazygringo » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 3:05 PM UTC

I applaud new thinking, but his proposed solution doesn't even meet his proposed criteria.

> Aesthetically, we want a clean, graceful line from hip to ankle even while holding things.

How are side bulges above the knee clean and graceful?

> Where is there enough support to prevent items swinging around uncomfortably?

Because pants are looser around the knee than the waist, heavy items like a phone will constantly be swinging around uncomfortably down there -- same as they do in cargo pants.

As for the problem that started it all:

> Putting a modern slab phone, a wallet, and keys into a pair of skinny jeans will leave even the most fashionable figure looking looking like they’re wearing batman’s utility belt as underwear.

A little bit, yes, but it's really just the least bad solution. Everything else is even worse. The market has settled on pockets as they are, because they actually truly work best.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by notjustanymike » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 3:06 PM UTC

These look very much like a pair of hiking pants I have.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by rm445 » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 3:09 PM UTC

vsskanth wrote: post #8

Pretty much all work pants (like Dickie's) have this, in addition to regular pockets.

They're good pockets, aren't they? But the ones I've owned seem to be sized and proportioned for a stanley knife or similar, not a phone or wallet.

I think the author is onto something, though I'm still not convinced these pockets give a nice line with much in them, which people generally care about. Dickies-type trousers tend to have a looser fit than the pictured trousers. The article photos with a phone held partly in the pocket aren't definitive.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by jschwartzi » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 3:10 PM UTC

He’s reinvented the knife pocket in carpenter jeans. There’s also usually a loop nearby for hanging a hammer so you don’t have to walk around with your tool bags.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by rm445 » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 3:11 PM UTC

Pamar wrote: post #3

I am sorry, Sam. You just reinvented cargo pants . :P

Cargo pants really look bad with anything in them though, except flattish items like paper money. These trousers look like an improvement.

I think the next step is to reinvent the bum bag in a slightly more sartorially-elegant form.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by diiq » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 3:13 PM UTC

jfengel wrote: post #6

Pamar wrote: post #3

I am sorry, Sam. You just reinvented cargo pants . :P

And the problem with putting cargo in your cargo pants is that it swings when you walk. I have aome great Kuhl pants with similar pocket design, but it's awkward to walk with my phone there. I could perhaps get used to it, especially if they fit a bit tighter as his seem to.

The pocket opening is placed where the pants are still close fit around the thigh -- I've experienced no swinging or banging of the contents.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 3:14 PM UTC

Ftuuky wrote: post #2

>"Appendix: Sam, have you simply invented cargo pants? >No. Cargo pants are fashion-as-pretend-occupation — when not at work, wear a fancy chronometer to suggest you’re a pilot or a diver, or camo to suggest you’re in the military. Cargo pants are a paratrooper costume. Cargo shorts have giant external pouches so teenagers in the 90’s, trapped in school, could say (sartorially) “I go out into the world and do adventu…

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Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by annoyingnoob » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 3:14 PM UTC

You seem kind of touchy on the 'cargo pocket' subject, which is the first thing that came to mind for me. Glad you found something that works for you.

Google 'dockers cell phone pocket'. You can already get shorts and pants with a cell phone pocket on the side. Some very similar to yours, some zippered, some a little closer to the hip, some a little lower.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by diiq » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 3:15 PM UTC

wolfram74 wrote: post #5

Ftuuky wrote: post #2

>"Appendix: Sam, have you simply invented cargo pants? >No. Cargo pants are fashion-as-pretend-occupation — when not at work, wear a fancy chronometer to suggest you’re a pilot or a diver, or camo to suggest you’re in the military. Cargo pants are a paratrooper costume. Cargo shorts have giant external pouches so teenagers in the 90’s, trapped in school, could say (sartorially) “I go out into the world and do adventu…

Yeah, I felt somewhat slandered by the attack on cargo pants. I wore them in high school and still wear them to this day for comfort and convenience. There is a functional elegance of being able to have pens, a small note book, keys+wallet and phone in separate pockets easily accessible. It's like having a preponderance of tabs open, but for pants.

Wasn't meant to be an attack -- they just solve a different problem for a different demographic. Like I said -- if you can wear cargo pants at work, then these pants probably don't mean much to you.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by diiq » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 3:16 PM UTC

crazygringo wrote: post #11

I applaud new thinking, but his proposed solution doesn't even meet his proposed criteria. > Aesthetically, we want a clean, graceful line from hip to ankle even while holding things. How are side bulges above the knee clean and graceful? > Where is there enough support to prevent items swinging around uncomfortably? Because pants are looser around the knee than the waist, heavy items like a phone will constantly be…

I solemnly swear I've experienced no swinging or banging. These pants are fitted at the thigh, and the pocket bag is inside the pant leg. I genuinely forget my phone is there, even on long walks.

And there's no bulge at the knee because trousers don't fit tightly at the knee -- otherwise, you would't be able to sit down. The fit at the top of the pocket prevents swing, and the ease at the bottom prevents bulge.