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Flying close to the Sun is hard, both because of the thermal environment and the difficulty of achieving trajectories that get close. A mission that launched two years ago, Parker Solar Probe, is actually going to get closer. Parker and Solar Orbiter have different objectives and should complement each other well. http://parkersolarprobe.jhuapl.edu/
Ya, at first glance it seems easier to get to the sun, but due to orbital mechanics it's actually harder than it seems. Probes bound for deep-space destinations like Mars can piggyback off Earth’s momentum to fly faster. For a spacecraft to launch toward the sun, on the other hand, it must accelerate to nearly match the Earth’s velocity—in the opposite direction. With the planet’s motion essentially canceled out, the…
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
Flying close to the Sun is hard, both because of the thermal environment and the difficulty of achieving trajectories that get close. A mission that launched two years ago, Parker Solar Probe, is actually going to get closer. Parker and Solar Orbiter have different objectives and should complement each other well. http://parkersolarprobe.jhuapl.edu/
Ya, at first glance it seems easier to get to the sun, but due to orbital mechanics it's actually harder than it seems. Probes bound for deep-space destinations like Mars can piggyback off Earth’s momentum to fly faster. For a spacecraft to launch toward the sun, on the other hand, it must accelerate to nearly match the Earth’s velocity—in the opposite direction. With the planet’s motion essentially canceled out, the…
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ya, at first glance it seems easier to get to the sun, but due to orbital mechanics it's actually harder than it seems. Probes bound for deep-space destinations like Mars can piggyback off Earth’s momentum to fly faster. For a spacecraft to launch toward the sun, on the other hand, it must accelerate to nearly match the Earth’s velocity—in the opposite direction. With the planet’s motion essentially canceled out, the…
Hmm so a probe can't sling-shot around another planet to do a U-turn?
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Flying close to the Sun is hard, both because of the thermal environment and the difficulty of achieving trajectories that get close. A mission that launched two years ago, Parker Solar Probe, is actually going to get closer. Parker and Solar Orbiter have different objectives and should complement each other well. http://parkersolarprobe.jhuapl.edu/
Ya, at first glance it seems easier to get to the sun, but due to orbital mechanics it's actually harder than it seems. Probes bound for deep-space destinations like Mars can piggyback off Earth’s momentum to fly faster. For a spacecraft to launch toward the sun, on the other hand, it must accelerate to nearly match the Earth’s velocity—in the opposite direction. With the planet’s motion essentially canceled out, the…
I dont get why the speed up works only towards the outer solar system though. Why does it have to loose speed to control direction?
Re: Solar Orbiter first images revealed
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ya, at first glance it seems easier to get to the sun, but due to orbital mechanics it's actually harder than it seems. Probes bound for deep-space destinations like Mars can piggyback off Earth’s momentum to fly faster. For a spacecraft to launch toward the sun, on the other hand, it must accelerate to nearly match the Earth’s velocity—in the opposite direction. With the planet’s motion essentially canceled out, the…
Hmm so a probe can't sling-shot around another planet to do a U-turn?
It will take 7 passes of Venus though.
The reason that PSP isn't taking these images despite going much closer is that it doesn't have a camera for imaging the Sun.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ya, at first glance it seems easier to get to the sun, but due to orbital mechanics it's actually harder than it seems. Probes bound for deep-space destinations like Mars can piggyback off Earth’s momentum to fly faster. For a spacecraft to launch toward the sun, on the other hand, it must accelerate to nearly match the Earth’s velocity—in the opposite direction. With the planet’s motion essentially canceled out, the…
Interesting article thx. I dont get why the speed up works only towards the outer solar system though. Why does it have to loose speed to control direction?
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Interesting article thx. I dont get why the speed up works only towards the outer solar system though. Why does it have to loose speed to control direction?
The direction is "towards" or "away" from the sun, the only way to get closer to the sun is to make your orbit smaller, the only way to do that is to slow down in your current orbit. You can't reach a lower orbit by accelerating. (I'm simplifying a bit, it's all acceleration, what matters is if it's in your orbital velocity, prograde, or against it, retrograde)
Ah thanks this made sense. I guess if I was spinning something on a string I would have to slow it down for the orbit to shrink.
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#19Many years ago I experienced a VR tour of the solar system on Oculus. I never fully comprehended just how big the sun was until going on that tour. Something about being able to float around in space, and see the planets stacked next to the sun going off into the horizon and looking up and down and all around at the sun, just a really cool VR exclusive experience. Fascinated to hear what they learn from this orbiter.…
I "hacked" NASA (I used wget/curl to download the publicly available images) to get the specific shots (wavelength/resolution) from SOHO to get an entire 11 day's worth of a single rotation of the sun. We put that sequence into a VR setting. It was strictly for a demo/PoC of an idea we were knocking around. The idea didn't gain any traction with the producers, so it just got shelved. It was fun showing everyone how s…
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#20This is another reminder of just how little space exploration has happened so far... I'm kinda amazed no one's ever just thrown a probe at the sun to get as much data as possible before it burns. I get a similar feeling staring at the bare handful of images from the surface of Venus.
The answer is somewhat simply that it burns real quick. These guys made the heat shield for this thing and have some decent insights: http://enbio.eu/solar-orbiter/