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Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says

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Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says

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Post by autokad »

vmception wrote: post #7
Deely123123 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sarcasm? Behavioral disorder therapy is not equal to hormone therapy.

yes, sarcasm. this system seems to use random cocktails on people with no medical evaluation to support it. this is america.

i disagree. we have treatments that have been shown to be helpful for a given disease. its not perfect but giving out random cocktails is not the norm. estrogen is not a treatment for that disease, which is why this is a headline and that action (as far as I can tell) is heinous.

Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says

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Post by lowdose »

A woman that uses the pill as birth control consumes 0.00365 gram of estrogen a year. At a consumption price of the pill for $300 a gram of estradiol is thus worth $82,191.79. Compare that to $44 for a gram of gold and you wonder if big Pharma is ready for disruption?

Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says

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Post by totalZero »

jimbob45 wrote: post #10

I see no problem here. Kid should sue and win. Doctor gets investigated by the local/regional/national board of medicine and is disbarred for not practicing evidence-based medicine. Jail comes under investigation for their choice to hire the doctor (who ostensibly lacked the red flags to prevent his hiring). This is how the system works. It’s not like you can know which doctors are the bad apples before malpractice l…

I mean, there's obviously a problem here.

Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says

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Post by CodeWriter23 »

jimbob45 wrote: post #10

I see no problem here. Kid should sue and win. Doctor gets investigated by the local/regional/national board of medicine and is disbarred for not practicing evidence-based medicine. Jail comes under investigation for their choice to hire the doctor (who ostensibly lacked the red flags to prevent his hiring). This is how the system works. It’s not like you can know which doctors are the bad apples before malpractice l…

Until the doctor says his diagnosis is the child’s behavioral problems were rooted in gender dysphoria.

Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says

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Post by leesec »

stupidcar wrote: post #14

This reads like the plot of a dystopian young adult sci-fi novel. Children who resist authority being diagnosed with a "behavioural disorder" and being forcibly given hormones by an evil doctor. Yet apparently this is the reality of modern society.

one flew over the cuckoos nest?

Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says

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Post by fwip »

microcolonel wrote: post #9
0xy wrote: post #5

The doctor should be stripped of their license.

Given that nobody seems to be able to account for his decision, it seems like maybe he should be in prison. If somebody assaults my testicles and renders me infertile, that is an extremely serious crime; this doctor may well have done the equivalent (along with completely destroying the boy mentally) with the stroke of a pen.

The good news (for this boy) is that 13 days of hormone therapy are unlikely to cause any permanent changes. Infertility/sterility is usually only expected after years of HRT - and even then, often returns if HRT is ceased.

Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says

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Post by jimbob45 »

totalZero wrote: post #13
jimbob45 wrote: post #10

I see no problem here. Kid should sue and win. Doctor gets investigated by the local/regional/national board of medicine and is disbarred for not practicing evidence-based medicine. Jail comes under investigation for their choice to hire the doctor (who ostensibly lacked the red flags to prevent his hiring). This is how the system works. It’s not like you can know which doctors are the bad apples before malpractice l…

I mean, there's obviously a problem here.

To me, it seems like the system is working as intended. Rather well, actually, because a bad doctor was brought to light with a fairly benign case rather than something potentially deadly later on.

Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says

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Post by anoxor »

vmception wrote: post #7
Deely123123 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sarcasm? Behavioral disorder therapy is not equal to hormone therapy.

yes, sarcasm. this system seems to use random cocktails on people with no medical evaluation to support it. this is america.

This is extremely rare, worth media attention, and rightfully outcry and pursuing justice through legal means.

Re: Boy, 16, was given estrogen at L.A. juvenile hall, suit says

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Post by fwip »

CodeWriter23 wrote: post #15
jimbob45 wrote: post #10

I see no problem here. Kid should sue and win. Doctor gets investigated by the local/regional/national board of medicine and is disbarred for not practicing evidence-based medicine. Jail comes under investigation for their choice to hire the doctor (who ostensibly lacked the red flags to prevent his hiring). This is how the system works. It’s not like you can know which doctors are the bad apples before malpractice l…

Until the doctor says his diagnosis is the child’s behavioral problems were rooted in gender dysphoria.

That's not how diagnoses for gender dysphoria work.
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