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Fauci: ‘Bizarre’ White House Behavior Only Hurts the President

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Re: Fauci: ‘Bizarre’ White House Behavior Only Hurts the President

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Post by jVinc »

IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #6

There is always 2 sides to every story. Here is an op-ed from a top level cabinet official coming straight at him. Specifically stating Dr Fauci has been wrong at every major call. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/todaysdebate/2020/07/... As with everything, it would seem that the truth is somewhere in-between. Skepticism seems to be the order of the day

This sentiment of "there must be two sides that should be equally weighed" is absolute rubbish. It'd doesn't work for creationism vs. Science and it doesn't work in Trumps Administration vs. Science.

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Post by cbsks »

IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #6

There is always 2 sides to every story. Here is an op-ed from a top level cabinet official coming straight at him. Specifically stating Dr Fauci has been wrong at every major call. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/todaysdebate/2020/07/... As with everything, it would seem that the truth is somewhere in-between. Skepticism seems to be the order of the day

Did you click the links in the op-ed? Almost every claim is false, and the rest are inaccurate at best.

The only claim that wasn't refuted in the links was the Henry Ford Hydroxychloroquine study. Here's more context on that: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/navarro-doesnt-give-full-p...

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Post by mountainboot »

IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #6

There is always 2 sides to every story. Here is an op-ed from a top level cabinet official coming straight at him. Specifically stating Dr Fauci has been wrong at every major call. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/todaysdebate/2020/07/... As with everything, it would seem that the truth is somewhere in-between. Skepticism seems to be the order of the day

If you say water freezes a 0 degrees celcius and I say it freezes at 100 degrees, that doesn't mean it freezes at 50 degrees.

Re: Fauci: ‘Bizarre’ White House Behavior Only Hurts the President

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Post by pmiller2 »

oblongx wrote: post #10
monocasa wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure it's so cut and dry that he's resilient to political games. I follow right wing groups to understand the cognitive structure they use to understand the world and new events, and they're currently comparing him to Josef Mengele.

How right wing, we talking dailystormer?

They might actually like Mengele there.

Re: Fauci: ‘Bizarre’ White House Behavior Only Hurts the President

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Post by pmiller2 »

DNied wrote: post #14

Surely it hurts quite a bit more than "only the president"?

I'm reading it as "(only) (hurts the President)," not "(only hurts) (the President)."

From the article:

> “Ultimately, it hurts the president to do that,” Fauci told The Atlantic in a series of interviews this week. “When the staff lets out something like that and the entire scientific and press community push back on it, it ultimately hurts the president.”

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Post by thephyber »

monocasa wrote: post #3
supernova87a wrote: post #2

Fauci has the enviable position of being objectively correct on almost everything he says, and being correct on a topic that pretty much everyone cares about and can see he's correct. You can observe the difference in how resilient such a position is against political games and maneuvering, compared to a position that is based in subjective or differences of opinion-based matters (where the each side may have legitim…

I'm not sure it's so cut and dry that he's resilient to political games. I follow right wing groups to understand the cognitive structure they use to understand the world and new events, and they're currently comparing him to Josef Mengele.

Are these groups active in the QAnon LARP?

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Post by _y5hn »

IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #6

There is always 2 sides to every story. Here is an op-ed from a top level cabinet official coming straight at him. Specifically stating Dr Fauci has been wrong at every major call. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/todaysdebate/2020/07/... As with everything, it would seem that the truth is somewhere in-between. Skepticism seems to be the order of the day

> However, several of Navarro’s criticisms of Fauci — on the China travel restrictions, the risk from the coronavirus and falling mortality rates — were misleading or lacked context. As such, Navarro’s op-ed did not meet USA TODAY’s fact-checking standards.

And then there's the misinterpretations of "lack of evidence" and hindsight bias.

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