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SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs

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Re: SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs

#11
I really liked the idea or RancherOS, but somehow it never quite lived up to its promise. In particular, the need to distinguish between root and non-root containers was surprisingly confusing in practice. It effectively broke the promise of “just worry about docker”.

Has anyone here adopted it over the long term? What made it stick?

Any ideas why SUSE would need/want this?

Re: SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs

#14

If anyone else is thinking, how much? I tried to do some research and I found this: "The companies announced the deal Wednesday but didn’t disclose the terms. Two people familiar with the deal said SUSE is paying $600 million to $700 million." Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/08/suse-acquires-rancher-labs.h...

Just enough to pay off their debt

What do you mean? Rancher has raised only $100 million in funding from what I can tell.

Re: SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs

#15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just enough to pay off their debt

What do you mean? Rancher has raised only $100 million in funding from what I can tell.

Yeah, I did not really understand that comment either. According to the same article they had more than 1/3 of their raised funds still in the bank (1/3 of $95 million).

Re: SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs

#16

Makes a lot of sense to sell now since Rancher doesn't offer a lot of value anymore compared to vanilla Kubernetes and a few Helm charts.

How are you using vanilla Kubernetes? I've tried provisioning vanilla K8s on bare metal clusters and I found it to be pure PITA, even with Kubespray.

Rancher's RKE is the first installer I've come across that "just works". Run rke up against a cluster.yml and within minutes you have a HA cluster with ingress ready to rock. K3S is also looking quite good.

In contrast I've spent days staring down the abyss of vanilla K8s. If you have good alternatives for launching K8S on bare metal/on-prem clusters, would be game to try.

Re: SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs

#17

I really liked the idea or RancherOS, but somehow it never quite lived up to its promise. In particular, the need to distinguish between root and non-root containers was surprisingly confusing in practice. It effectively broke the promise of “just worry about docker”. Has anyone here adopted it over the long term? What made it stick? Any ideas why SUSE would need/want this?

I tried it briefly for homelab use and came to the same conclusion— I ended up feeling like I had a lot more of a safety net with a conventional Ubuntu/Docker/Portainer type setup than I did with Rancher.

Re: SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs

#18

I really liked the idea or RancherOS, but somehow it never quite lived up to its promise. In particular, the need to distinguish between root and non-root containers was surprisingly confusing in practice. It effectively broke the promise of “just worry about docker”. Has anyone here adopted it over the long term? What made it stick? Any ideas why SUSE would need/want this?

I tried it briefly for homelab use and came to the same conclusion— I ended up feeling like I had a lot more of a safety net with a conventional Ubuntu/Docker/Portainer type setup than I did with Rancher.

Yup. I should have specified that mine was a homelab setup as well (and was several years ago).

It’s a shame because I still feel there’s a gap between docker-compose and Kubernetes. I don’t have k8-size problems, but I do have well-beyond-docker-compose-size problems.

Re: SUSE to Acquire Rancher Labs

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The real news for me here is that SUSE still exists.

They're still quite popular in Europe and especially in Germany whereas Redhat has utterly dominated North America.

> Redhat has utterly dominated North America

nods head Yup, sounds about right.

SUSE is used pretty widely used in the European financial sector, right? That’s what I remember hearing the most about it.

EDIT: I’m referring to non-personal workloads, i.e. enterprise. Pretty much everything I’ve come across in a working environment has been Red Hat based, I’m not talking about personal local or VPS environments. Ubuntu and Debian do have a presence, but not at the Red Hat scale from my experience.

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