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Re: Where Am I? NYTimes or Google?

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The shenanigans Google been doing to the url bar is super hostile. Trying to copy the domain of a url without the protocol just infuriates me.

Not defending that change, but when do you ever need to copy just the domain instead of the full URL?

The times that bit me the most is when I need to copy an IP address.

Re: Where Am I? NYTimes or Google?

#12
I truly hope whoever keeps pushing AMP such as it is has to birth a hedgehog backwards. I mean, at least add some way to opt out of this shit. This is why I don’t use Google as my mobile search engine. I honestly still would if my browser allowed me to disable or bypass it, but nope. No extensions for me because Apple won’t allow for anything like that.

/rant

Re: Where Am I? NYTimes or Google?

#13
post #2

Yes this has been a big issue for a very long time now. Google wants to push a release where it will display the hostname of the amp site even if the content is being served from google.com[1]. Mozilla (and Apple) are strictly against it and thank god for Mozilla. If Google had a bigger market share this would already be something we would have been living with. I'm sure there are better sources for this, but here is…

Being completely against AMP for obvious reasons, I'm personally not against signed exchanges itself, this feature could spawn a whole new class of decentralised and harder to censor web hosting, that sounds like a great addition.

Going to also spawn a whole new class of semi-persistent malicious pages (say created via XSS) that once signed and captured can be continuously replayed to clients until expiration.

Re: Where Am I? NYTimes or Google?

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post #4

The shenanigans Google been doing to the url bar is super hostile. Trying to copy the domain of a url without the protocol just infuriates me.

Disable this setting in chrome by going to chrome://flags and switching #omnibox-context-menu-show-full-urls to enabled. Then right click the URL bar and select "alawys show full URLS"

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Re: Where Am I? NYTimes or Google?

#17
Meanwhile google spent ten years making sure I have to jump through a certificate authority's hoops because running a website without tls gives users the wrong idea about domain validation even when encryption is unneeded, which as we heard from PR dweebs on this very website all day every day, is just completely unacceptable for a whole litany of reasons.

Re: Where Am I? NYTimes or Google?

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post #5
post #2

Yes this has been a big issue for a very long time now. Google wants to push a release where it will display the hostname of the amp site even if the content is being served from google.com[1]. Mozilla (and Apple) are strictly against it and thank god for Mozilla. If Google had a bigger market share this would already be something we would have been living with. I'm sure there are better sources for this, but here is…

I don’t really think Google’s plan is that weird. And it would be amazing for decentralized networks, archiving, and offline web apps. Google can’t just serve nyt.com — they can serve a specific bundle of resources published and signed by nyt.com verified by your browser to be authentic and unmodified.

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Re: Where Am I? NYTimes or Google?

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being completely against AMP for obvious reasons, I'm personally not against signed exchanges itself, this feature could spawn a whole new class of decentralised and harder to censor web hosting, that sounds like a great addition.

Going to also spawn a whole new class of semi-persistent malicious pages (say created via XSS) that once signed and captured can be continuously replayed to clients until expiration.

What? The signing allows the content to be mirrored in other locations with guarantees about consistency. It doesn't imply anything more about the content than SSL does.
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