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Drug overdoses are soaring during the coronavirus pandemic

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Re: Drug overdoses are soaring during the coronavirus pandemic

#11

I'm cynical enough at this point to wonder whether the states will add these terrible losses to the COVID-19-related statistics to advocate for stricter and longer lock-downs.

Aren't states prematurely lifting lockdowns to horrific infection increases due to budgetary concerns?

Re: Drug overdoses are soaring during the coronavirus pandemic

#12

I'm cynical enough at this point to wonder whether the states will add these terrible losses to the COVID-19-related statistics to advocate for stricter and longer lock-downs.

States have been chomping at the bit to end their lockdowns. The fact that cases are spiking again is precisely because states were too eager to end their lockdowns.

China had a brutal lockdown early and thanks to that they are now largely back in business. Anti-lockdown sentiment early on is precisely the reason the US has had to prolong its suffering. The reason long lockdowns are happening is because we can’t muster strict.

Re: Drug overdoses are soaring during the coronavirus pandemic

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I'm cynical enough at this point to wonder whether the states will add these terrible losses to the COVID-19-related statistics to advocate for stricter and longer lock-downs.

I'm a bit confused by this. By my reading of the reopenings and behavior of state governments, many, if not most, state governments want to reopen. They're struggling financially since people aren't working or visiting the states to provide tax revenue. Most of my teacher friends have been in calls with their district administration where cutbacks (either in personnel or across the board pay cuts) have been discussed seriously.

At this point, states want shorter lock downs and the ones that have reinstituted (partially or in whole) the previous lock down orders have done so because of rising case numbers (largely due, it seems, to people behaving as if there were no reason to continue social distancing or wearing masks).

Which state governments do you think want to continue the shutdowns and cripple their economies?

Re: Drug overdoses are soaring during the coronavirus pandemic

#15
post #8

I remember talking to a technically minded friend about my clinical depression, and I remember how she mentioned building an app to help solve it. I remember thinking at the time how sometimes building an app isn't the solution to a problem. Sometimes the best solutions are the simplest, most straightforward, and the least innovative ones: voting in policymakers who craft empathetic public policy, donating to charity…

Your friend must be hilarious. I don't think anyone would say something like that seriously.

Re: Drug overdoses are soaring during the coronavirus pandemic

#16
post #8

I remember talking to a technically minded friend about my clinical depression, and I remember how she mentioned building an app to help solve it. I remember thinking at the time how sometimes building an app isn't the solution to a problem. Sometimes the best solutions are the simplest, most straightforward, and the least innovative ones: voting in policymakers who craft empathetic public policy, donating to charity…

> I remember thinking at the time how sometimes building an app isn't the solution to a problem.

Is it ever?

Let Apple and Google churn out that stuff. Let the rest of us sell shovels for $180k/yr to tech company founders. Or $500k/yr to Apple and Google.

Re: Drug overdoses are soaring during the coronavirus pandemic

#18
Back when this started I made the claim that the long term consequences of lock down would exceed the short term benefits .

Depression, Drugs overdose, murder (despair), Suicide, extra sedentary issues leading to diabetese/CVD, loss of jobs/meaning et al.

I havent seen anyone do the math of the uptick there to talk about the marginal benefit of lockdown or the fact that this, once again, is a form of biased benefit for the elderly at the expense of the younger (elderly more likely to die, younger more likely to suffer harder from lockdown)

Re: Drug overdoses are soaring during the coronavirus pandemic

#19

The same is happening in Canada, it's because addicts are able to get money from the government and they buy far more drugs than they're used to having. Edit: all the people downvoting me, why? not a single comment seriously, this isn't a theory, it's just the facts https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cerb-pandemic-opioid-addict...

This makes the most sense. Perhaps being forced inside away from someone who could say stop.

Which raises the question would a basic income cause more misery for the general masses?

Re: Drug overdoses are soaring during the coronavirus pandemic

#20

The same is happening in Canada, it's because addicts are able to get money from the government and they buy far more drugs than they're used to having. Edit: all the people downvoting me, why? not a single comment seriously, this isn't a theory, it's just the facts https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cerb-pandemic-opioid-addict...

Potentially a factor, but don’t you also think widespread unemployment and general trauma - collective and individual - could play a role?
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